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Did CIA Rendition Flights Rely on Bogus State Dept. Letter?

As the Washington Post and others have reported today, an obscure court case in New York state has led to the disclosure of new details on CIA's extraordinary rendition program, in which the United States captured dozens of alleged terrorists and sent them to secret prisons overseas.

About 1,700 pages of documents have been filed in the case, which involves a billing dispute between two charter companies who had been hired to carry out the secret flights. The records include flight itineraries for Khalid Sheik Mohammed and others. As the head of one of the companies testified, "We were transporting government personnel and their invitees."

But what really caught our eye are potentially forged State Department letters authorizing the flights. The letters were sent to each air crew before flights and were signed by a State Department official who may not exist.

The letters were all signed by "Terry A. Hogan." (Here is one of them.) But the Associated Press says there are indications that Hogan "was fictitious":

The AP could not locate Hogan. No official with that name is currently listed in State's department-wide directory. A comprehensive 2004 State Department telephone directory contains no reference to Hogan, or variations of that name—despite records of four separate transit letters signed by Terry A. Hogan in January, March and April 2004. Several of the signatures on the diplomatic letters under Hogan's name were noticeably different.

As the New York Times has detailed back in 2005, the CIA program relied on a host of "front companies and shell corporations." Premier Executive Transport Services, Inc. was the owner of one plane used for rendition. But as the Washington Post noted, the company listed "directors and officers who appear to exist only on paper."  

Asked about the letters, a State Department spokesman told the AP it has a policy of not commenting on "alleged intelligence activities." Lawrence Wilkerson, a top State Department official during the Bush administration, told the AP he wasn't familiar with the letters and knew of no direct involvement between the department and the rendition program. We've also put in a call to the State Department and have yet to hear back.

Fernando Agarraberes

Sep. 1, 2011, 4:56 p.m.

If “potentially forged” documents is what caught your eye you are really missing the big picture:

Who are the people responsable of violation of human rights, kidnapping, and sending people to other countries to be tortured?

When are they going to be brought to justice?

Barry Schmittou

Sep. 1, 2011, 5:22 p.m.

Since the government leaders are owned by corporations you can be sure that now or soon they will arrest or kill citizens who are harmful to the corporate profits.

Things are getting worse exponentially. The U.S. and world leaders are capable of anything !!

If you look at the multiple Non prosecution agreements for money laundering and bid rigging that have been given to multiple corporations that I linked at bidriggingandhealthcarefraud.blogspot.com it’s easy to see that corporations can do whatever they please with no fear of prosecution.

Then look at how Obama and Bush both allowed doctors’ (paid by their campaign contributors) to ignore brain lesions, Multiple Sclerosis, cardiac conditions of many patients, and a foot a new mother broke in five places as seen at deadlyorganizedcrimes.blogspot.com

MetLife attacks multiple Psychological patients but they gave Obama hundreds of thousands of dollars and he won’t touch them !!

In Zanny verses MetLife U.S. District Judge Richard Enslen wrote :

“Metlife and its henchmen should appreciate that such conduct may itself precipitate the suicide death of a person who has placed implicit trust in their organization. This record is an open indictment of MetLife’s practices and treatment of the mentally-ill and long-term disability benefits.”

In 2008 Obama took $30,000 from MetLife VP James Lipscomb, and $2,600 from attorney Bruce Yannett. Both of these gifts were for Obama’s victory party.

Obama took hundreds of thousands of dollars from MetLife and the law firm named Debevoise & Plimpton LLP that employs Mr. Yannett !!

Then MetLife’s VP Lipscomb and Attorney Yannett signed MetLife’s third Non Prosecution agreement for committing multiple frauds and rigging bids to increase sales of disability policies;

BUT when sick and dying patients file claims on these policies Obama’s DOL/DOJ will do nothing about doctors paid by MetLife ignoring brain lesions, Multiple Sclerosis, cardiac conditions of many patients and a foot a new mother broke in five places, as evidenced by quotes from numerous federal Court Judges and treating physicians !!

I have many examples like the following :

In the case of Wright verses Metlife U.S. Magistrate Judge Jennifer Guerm wrote these quotes :

“MetLife relied on clearly erroneous findings of fact in making its benefit determination. MetLife’s review of Plaintiff’s appeal consistently omitted or misrepresented relevant information in several ways. On October 18, 2004, Dr. Barnett wrote a letter to MetLife stating:

“I am gravely disturbed by your misrepresentation of the facts with regard to my discussion with your independent physician consultant and your lack of due diligence in collecting further medical information regarding Mr. Wright’s health condition. Indeed, Mr. Wright has ongoing cardiac disease including ischemia and loss of function due to previous myocardial infarctions.”

MetLife also spent $41 million lobbying in the last ten years, and made huge contributions to almost every legislator !!

On the same day that Obama’s gift givers at MetLife signed their non prosecution agreement Prudential, and Unum insurance also received Non Prosecution agreements for bid rigging group health, disability, life and related policies.

Add that to AIG’s huge bid rigging of billions of dollars in bids to increase sales of workers comp policies !!

AIG’s bid rigging occurred during the exact same time period that WFAA - TV Wrote :

“a remarkable number of Texans committed suicide because they could no longer endure the pain caused by their injuries and they had been repeatedly turned down for worker’s comp care. Some insurance companies send peer review doctors medical files “stripped” of records important to the possible approval of workers’ comp claims.”

AIG gave Obama at least $119,670 in 2008 :

opensecrets.org/pres08/search.php?cid=N00009638&name;=&employ=aig&state;=(all)&zip;=(any+zip)&submit=OK&amt=a&sort=A

They spent $83 million lobbying in ten years :

opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000123&year=2008

You can also see how multiple insurance companies are committing identical dangerous crimes at treasonevidence.blogspot.com

As I said things are getting worse exponentially. The U.S. and world leaders are capable of anything !!

This article is one more example that we all need to seek God and pray often, because God is our only hope !!

Err…Not to tell anybody how to do their job, but why isn’t this the top headline, exactly?  You’ve unearthed systemic corruption within either the military or the State Department with the intent to seriously violate American caselaw, the Constitution, and multiple human rights treaties to which our country is a party.

It seems to me that the forged signature of an imaginary official is hard evidence of outright treason and conspiracy to commit treason.  I don’t think that tops oil drilling or Rick Perry.

(Meanwhile, a simple web search for Hogan turns up a Pennsylvanian with a bunch of aliases and a Texan schoolteacher.)

Philip Elenko

Sep. 2, 2011, 11:41 a.m.

Follow the money. Who paid and the reason paid. How high does it go? Look up the words for “Little Tin Box.”

worst headline ever! downright pusillanimous!
how about “Further details revealed about illegal US kidnapping and torture of suspects”

In the light of day, evil is exposed.  As people who hold democratic values dear to their heart come forward to expose the fraud and illegitimacy of state-based secrecy, the system as it is now constructed becomes unstable.  Becomes unsustainable.  A new day is dawning.  A better day.  All in due time.

Stephanie Palmer

Sep. 2, 2011, 12:26 p.m.

Just another way of disposing of taxpayer money without having to account for it. I guess there must have been a great deal of taxpayer money up for grabs.

Since these renditions started in 2005——We already knew that Bush and Cheney were doing this big time an they did it for years.  And, since they spent $83 million in ten years and Obama has only been President for less than 3 years - proves that the Bush Cheney cabal must have gotten many, many more millions. 

They don’t call Cheney - Darth Vader for nothing.

lolll…daggone, but that letter looked strangely familiar.  Seeing as I’ve made a determined effort to forget a lot of things, they must be rather…routine.  Travel documents and movement authorizations at the governmental level apparently still haven’t caught up to the modern age of embedded RFID chips, magnetic strips, etc. 

Were I to hazard a guess, I would venture that has something to do with the fact that it is a lot easier to make a simple piece of paper go away than the fabled tape (or any other kind of data-carrying magnetic, optical, or other media) associated with the sentence “This tape will self-destruct in five seconds. Good luck, Jim.”

lolll..and was amused by another thought:  Given the continued use of such paper documents, the worldwide anti-smoking craze must be getting to be a bit of an…inconvenience.

Is probably border guards all over the place trained to tag individuals who carry lighters but no tobacco products.

Barry Schmittou

Sep. 2, 2011, 2:06 p.m.

If we place some of the commenters on this thread and others in charge of our world I believe our world would have a much better chance to survive; ProPublica has some great input too.

Since I’ve come to believe the corruption is all so connected it must be biblical I don’t think the above sentences will happen, but it’s my attempt to express appreciation to those who care to comment.

Your humor is appreciated, and the fact you have not tried to disconnect my cut and paste is greatly appreciated : )

I have to go now, a big fancy plane just landed in front of my house and they said I must get on board : )

Lucretia Rossi

Sep. 2, 2011, 2:23 p.m.

Given their incredible record of covering their tracks, I’m betting that “Terry Hogan” is the name they signed to all the documents so that, just in case, the documents couldn’t be traced to a real, prosecutable person.

In some ways what’s really new about this story? The CIA has always operated out side the law and accountable to no one if the CIA so wishes.

I remember something being said a very, very long time ago, source not remembered, that if the CIA were cut from federal funding they could fund themselves from their own covert businesses.

In a report linking Wachovia to money laundering for Mexican cartels, a federal investigation into whistleblower claims found airplanes, financed by former CIA and National Defense Contractors and owned by former CIA and DEA employees, full of drugs in Mexico. Those guys probably wish they had forged their names on the documents, but what difference does it make when the American public allows criminals to run the country in spite of all the evidence?

Barry Schmittou

Sep. 2, 2011, 3:17 p.m.

Thank you Maria !!

Here are two unbelievable paragraphs from an article I found after a quick search :

“The conclusion to the case was only the tip of an iceberg, demonstrating the role of the “legal” banking sector in swilling hundreds of billions of dollars – the blood money from the murderous drug trade in Mexico and other places in the world – around their global operations, now bailed out by the taxpayer.”

“At the height of the 2008 banking crisis, Antonio Maria Costa, then head of the United Nations office on drugs and crime, said he had evidence to suggest the proceeds from drugs and crime were “the only liquid investment capital” available to banks on the brink of collapse. “Inter-bank loans were funded by money that originated from the drugs trade,” he said. “There were signs that some banks were rescued that way.”

Here’s the intro from the article seen at :

guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs

On 10 April 2006, a DC-9 jet landed in the port city of Ciudad del Carmen, on the Gulf of Mexico, as the sun was setting. Mexican soldiers, waiting to intercept it, found 128 cases packed with 5.7 tons of cocaine, valued at $100m. But something else – more important and far-reaching – was discovered in the paper trail behind the purchase of the plane by the Sinaloa narco-trafficking cartel.

During a 22-month investigation by agents from the US Drug Enforcement Administration, the Internal Revenue Service and others, it emerged that the cocaine smugglers had bought the plane with money they had laundered through one of the biggest banks in the United States: Wachovia, now part of the giant Wells Fargo.

The authorities uncovered billions of dollars in wire transfers, traveller’s cheques and cash shipments through Mexican exchanges into Wachovia accounts. Wachovia was put under immediate investigation for failing to maintain an effective anti-money laundering programme.

Of special significance was that the period concerned began in 2004, which coincided with the first escalation of violence along the US-Mexico border that ignited the current drugs war.

Criminal proceedings were brought against Wachovia, though not against any individual, but the case never came to court. In March 2010, Wachovia settled the biggest action brought under the US bank secrecy act, through the US district court in Miami.

Now that the year’s “deferred prosecution” has expired, the bank is in effect in the clear. It paid federal authorities $110m in forfeiture, for allowing transactions later proved to be connected to drug smuggling, and incurred a $50m fine for failing to monitor cash used to ship 22 tons of cocaine.

More shocking, and more important, the bank was sanctioned for failing to apply the proper anti-laundering strictures to the transfer of $378.4bn – a sum equivalent to one-third of Mexico’s gross national product – into dollar accounts from so-called casas de cambio (CDCs) in Mexico, currency exchange houses with which the bank did business.

“Wachovia’s blatant disregard for our banking laws gave international cocaine cartels a virtual carte blanche to finance their operations,” said Jeffrey Sloman, the federal prosecutor. Yet the total fine was less than 2% of the bank’s $12.3bn profit for 2009. On 24 March 2010, Wells Fargo stock traded at $30.86 – up 1% on the week of the court settlement.

The conclusion to the case was only the tip of an iceberg, demonstrating the role of the “legal” banking sector in swilling hundreds of billions of dollars – the blood money from the murderous drug trade in Mexico and other places in the world – around their global operations, now bailed out by the taxpayer.

At the height of the 2008 banking crisis, Antonio Maria Costa, then head of the United Nations office on drugs and crime, said he had evidence to suggest the proceeds from drugs and crime were “the only liquid investment capital” available to banks on the brink of collapse. “Inter-bank loans were funded by money that originated from the drugs trade,” he said. “There were signs that some banks were rescued that way.”

Wachovia was acquired by Wells Fargo during the 2008 crash, just as Wells Fargo became a beneficiary of $25bn in taxpayers’ money. Wachovia’s prosecutors were clear, however, that there was no suggestion Wells Fargo had behaved improperly; it had co-operated fully with the investigation. Mexico is the US’s third largest international trading partner and Wachovia was understandably interested in this volume of legitimate trade.

For the whole article please go to :

guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs

Squander N. Blunderbush

Sep. 2, 2011, 5:21 p.m.

I was saddened to see that Omar Qadaffi had tortured his Libyan prisoners in Abu-Graib-like surroundings.  I wish that the USA could condemn his work and his sadism, but sadly, we are equally at fault.  We had a place in the world that showed integrity and decency, but we lost it due to greed for oil and petty vendettas.  Now when we ask for human rights, we are rightfully scorned.  How quickly we have fallen…from 1969 to 2011.  What happened?  Did we lose our way?

Peter Hockley

Sep. 2, 2011, 5:29 p.m.

These guys are totally Gonzo, and not in a good way. God I miss the Doctor and his Lawyer!

Went to comment, then got so confused over the write-in comments I begin wondering if anyone thinks this country has ever done anything
RIGHT?

Barry, I thought you had a plane to catch in your front yd…you should be greatful you still have one( front yard). and the goverment hasn’t taken that yet..Guess in your opinion you shouldn’t hold your breath.

If you keep bringing god into it he just might listen and destroy this country. Would that make you happy…Like told you so as he spares you from his rath? with fire and brimstone thrown in ?  Funny, I haven’t seen many if any comments coming from the east coast saying this is Gods work for our evil ways.

Still waiting for Carie to comment, She always has the facts ? does anyone know what 9/2 means to the world?

Oh, yes, the subject, Perhaps if we didn’t have such an open demoracy then the goverment and it’s branches wouldn’t have to stoop to such diverse tactics..don’t know? perhaps become a socialist state?
sorry for this, just getting feed up with all the negative. Surely we people have done something good of late.

thanks for reading anyway.

Let me ask you this, Bill, in response to your question of “Surely we people have done something good of late.” (and intermingle a little “God” while I’m at it):  You reckon St. Peter cuts you a huss over killing 100 if you let 1000 live while you’re awaiting an admission decision there at the “Pearly Gates”?

What good we do is erased every time the Republicans come into power.

I get really tired of overt or subtle remarks that US behavior can be compared to the treatments handed out by Islamist dictators.  Give me a break!

Uhhh, isn’t Terry the real first name of Hulk Hogan? Guess they figured the guys on the receiving end of thiese letters weren’s wrestling fans.

Who is Terry Hogan?
He’s actually many people, as may be seen here.
http://battleland.blogs.time.com/2011/09/02/who-is-terry-a-hogan/

Any chance you might the same scrutiny to the Black Panther cover-up and to ‘Fast and Furious’?  The un-Justice Dept is flagrantly violating American rights and its absent from Propublica.

It is about Time for replacing too old think tank to ammend and create new laws for creating new job opportunities and no other leader has better capable managerial skills than blessed Obama to initiate the job.

Barry Schmittou

Sep. 3, 2011, 5:24 p.m.

Bill,

I wrote :

This article is one more example that we all need to seek God and pray often, because God is our only hope !!

Bill, you responded :

“Barry, If you keep bringing god into it he just might listen and destroy this country. Would that make you happy Like told you so as he spares you from his rath? with fire and brimstone thrown in ?  Funny, I haven’t seen many if any comments coming from the east coast saying this is Gods work for our evil ways.”

Bill, I said nothing like that, and none of that would make me happy. I think it is unfair for you to ask if I would like all that.

I am a struggling Christian but I try to bring God into everything. The Bible tells us when we do we get attacked. Maybe you did not mean to attack but it sort of feels like it.

I’ll say another thing about being a Christian. There are a lot of people who say they are Christians but their actions are very mean and uncaring. There are televangelists who have hundreds of millions of dollars in the bank.

Instead of letting them turn me away from God I believe that proves the Bibles statements about false prophets to be true.

The main thing is I believe God is love and I pray all living beings will have a wonderful existence for eternity.

I was a Buddhist Christian for parts of my life, but my experiences in the last 11 years make me believe the Bible’s explanation of wickedness in high places is the only explanation for the Hell our globalist leaders are inflicting on so many.

I also believe I need help from our creator, and that is why I accept Jesus as my savior.

Also, life is so very complex I don’t believe it could just all happen without a creator !!

Bill, in your conclusion you wrote :

“Surely we people have done something good of late”

I agree that people have done some good, and the grace of God allowed it.

However if you look at the evidence I’ve posted at treasonevidence.blogspot.com and bidriggingandhealthcarefraud.blogspot.com

I believe that’s proof that the Obama and Bush administration engage in evil while they falsely profess to be great Christians.

Please look at the comment Maria and I wrote about Wachovia laundering billions for Mexican cartels. Then see how Wachovia employees gave $1,268,970 in contributions to politicians including Obama before Wachovia signed the Non prosecution agreement for money laundering.

I believe that is another example that our politicians are engaged in evil of Biblical proportions

The Wachovia contributions are linked near the end of bidriggingandhealthcarefraud.blogspot.com

Bill, you wrote :

“Barry, you should be grateful you still have a front yard”
I don’t Bill. I mentioned front yard in a rare joke seen above.

If you want to see a glimpse of my life please go to :

mypsychologistsreport.blogspot.com

I am taking the time to respond to you because I believe we are all witnessing the destruction of earth that is being caused by wickedness in high places that is mentioned in Ephesians 6:12

This forum is important because average citizens get to post comments that are seen around the world. My blogs have been viewed by over fifty nations, and many of the views were linked from ProPublica before I could no longer post the full link and that causes people to need to cut and paste.

Bill, as mentioned I wrote “we all need to seek God and pray often, because God is our only hope !!

You responded :

“Barry, If you keep bringing god into it he just might listen and destroy this country. Would that make you happy Like told you so as he spares you from his rath? with fire and brimstone thrown in ? 

Bill, that is so far from the truth I may chose to ignore any further such distortions of the truth.

I am trying desperately to stop more lives from being destroyed like mine has been. If you distort what I have said again I will have to think about whether it is a good use of time to respond.
I am currently filing additional documents in Federal Court regarding much of the evidence seen in the links above, and I may choose to not take time to respond to people who greatly distort what I said or wildly create false intentions like you have done.

I believe without God I cannot do anything correctly, I am trying to turn my entire life over to him and as the Bible says I will still be a sinner as long as I’m in this world.

Since I do not believe I can do any good without it being God’s will I will close by sincerely saying God bless you Bill. I pray you will have the best life and eternity possible.

I mean that sincerely, I pray it will not make you unhappy. I don’t know what else to say.

@pgillenw…regarding your comment that US behavior can [not] be compared to the treatments handed out by Islamist dictators”...

Which is worse:  Ginning up the story that the country you’re about to invade is draining your oil reserves via slant drilling, or ginning up the story that the country you’re about to invade has WMDs and al Qaeda training camps?

America as a whole is more humanitarian and currently features more personal freedom than the countries featuring (or that featured) “Islamist” dictators, but when we get bad apples in our government, the facts of history suggest that we can be manipulating into actions that match or exceed those of the aforementioned “Islamist” dictators in both criminality and cruelty.

Besides, aside from their most extreme behavior there isn’t a whole lot of difference between what those “Islamist” dictators did and do to their people economically and so sociologically and what our “wealthy conservatives” are paying their politicians to try to do to us.  The primary difference in my judgment, in fact, is that the wealthy “conservative” dictators of the Middle East rule(d) alone, whereas our wealthy “conservatives” seem to be intent on replacing democracy with a dictatorship by a committee of…themselves - albeit by proxy through their political pawns.

And they’re enjoying significant success in their effort.

Lucretia Rossi

Sep. 3, 2011, 8:29 p.m.

@ibsteve2u…how, in ANY way, does that excuse our behavior? we used to be a great nation that other countries looked up to and respected. you should read foreign news sometime. the rest of the world’s opinion of us is not nearly so great at the government and the news media make us think it is.

ibsteve2u, I hear your message. You seem to think there is a difference between wealthy republicans and wealthy democrats, there is not. The elite on the hill are capable of unimaginable deeds no matter party affiliation.

If you haven’t noticed we do not live under a democracy. We live under a corporatocracy. Our liberties dwindle each day.

It seems to me that the so called, most likely illegal, super-congress has the blessings of a so-called democrat dictator oops president.

Give me a break—the only chance America has is to dump all of them and start over. Me, I would prefer States begin to secede. Our Federal Gov’t is broken and has far too much power.

@Lucretia Rossi: I was not arguing that the United States always carefully trod “the high road”; rather, I was arguing that - usually in sync with Republican power - we can and too often are manipulated into behaving as badly as any malicious dictator anywhere.

@pgillenw:  Your argument that the Congress is so very bad that dissolution is the only viable alternative for the United States of America overlooks the reason why the Republicans are trying to weaken or eliminate all Federal government regulations - why they’re trying to make government “so small they can drown it in a bathtub”:  Because government is the only entity that can stand in defense of “the People” against the wealth and power of the few and their corporations who are the Republicans’ true base.

All of the Republicans in Congress come from “somewhere”; their attacks upon the American people represent the wishes of the monied in their home states as well as the wealth of their corporations.

What do the Republicans tell us they desire now?  No public education system; no environmental regulation; no public health system; no workplace safety rules; no wage laws; no consumer protection laws; no Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, food stamps, or any other life preserver; not just caps on jury awards but an inability to sue any business, corporation, or doctor for malpractice or malfeasance; no unions or any other private entity that can defend the individual, non-wealthy citizen…

lolll…and that is just “the short list” of what the Republicans want to do to all of us.

You have to think:  What is the core Republican moral principle?  It is that if you can make money from it - if the right people are or will make money from whatever it is - then it is “OK” to do no matter who else gets hurt.

Over human history, those who have such a morality have committed abomination after abomination…a state controlled by Republicans that chose to secede and so no longer had a Federal government to intercede on behalf of their citizens would quickly discover the difference between the Garden and Gehenna, for their Republicans would as quickly inflict Gehenna upon them.

I believe that we all need a Federal government - even a dysfunctional one - to ensure that those who have nothing at their core except greed (regardless of the camouflage of “pro-life” and “Christianity” the Republicans don in order to bamboozle their base) do not find a place within our borders where they can operate freely. 

Just as an aside that I find amusing:  The Republicans would finally implement real border security in such a state…in such a country…in order to prevent their captive citizens/pawns/slaves from fleeing when their excesses eventually and inevitably became…monstrous.

Good for me; I wrote all of that and successfully restricted myself to attributing the true right’s driving motivation to simple greed.  A lie by omission, perhaps; but it does avoid accusations of histrionics and hyperbole.

I do think the Federal Gov’t has its role as laid down by the constitution. The Fed’s main role as I see it is to protect its citizen’s from foreign aggression and invasion. Our Fed’s have not done this. We have been invaded across our Southern border and often aided by our Fed’s. Our Fed’s continue to allow the immigration or visa bound Islamist that wish to do us harm.

Education in America is dismal at best, a Fed bureaucracy has added little value for the dollars it takes in. State gov’t working with their cities, towns, counties are better positioned for the task.

Fed’s have a role in civil rights, national highway construction, bridges and dam’s and their maintenance. Here they have failed its citizens.

Our elite on the hill are pulled around by their short hairs by corporations who line the elite with coffers of money, corporations get what they want. Jobs go over seas while the might of our gov’t both military and giving away tax monies for these corporations to exploit workers in other countries and at the same time expanding their markets. It’s sick.

No States can protect their borders and their sovereign citizens—if the feds stayed the hell out of their business.

Geoff Swenson

Sep. 4, 2011, 3:49 p.m.

Who is actually running this country, the CIA or the elected government?

Geoff Swenson, Easy answer to your question. It is the CIA and its shadow companies and it is the corporations, multi-national corporations, Wall Street and Big Banks. It is the infiltration of foreign governments in to our elite on the hill.

It is the failure of the elite on the hill to do what is in the best interest of the sovereign on main street and thus the long term health of this Nation.

It is the elite who are bought and paid—I like to also think that the CIA just might, might have a hold on the elite through blackmail. Just a thought!

The following piece of my texts may help you sooner or later to see clearly larger picture of how faceless power regardless of with or without human sense of morality but backed by only money may control things by hook or by crook.:
...the idea comes…The digital communication tool of Microsoft Corp.is a gift of blessed collective human intelligence that can be successfully used for administering honest justice by mankind….if “no personal secrets to be kept hidden by the support of old /ancient laws, regardless honest or dishonest”, becomes the first item of new laws….under supervition of an totally impartial UN power.
....Copy is saved….in my hope for Justice for myself also for canada and the world for a truely dignified system of justice to be implemented by our Great North-America or Canada and USA-Leadership under now honestly in control of Barack Obama.

...If realization…(50% of money I was offered indirectly or directly and I am still expecting to receive from Microsoft Corporation, if My Creator protects me from all the harms IAHs are capable to do to me) for Obama 2012 campaign and about the said amount I informed many earlier too.
If the offer was not its own, then, Microsoft Corporation is legally liable for allowing such offers to pass through its technology and its failure in identifying and blocking such ‘Self defamation causing things’ transmitted by its own system when it is always capable of monitoring, modifying or destroying (I have observed with my own eyes) typing….
Moreover, even if it may officially try to deny its involvement with the above mentioned money offers but cannot get off the hook legally….
It is a crying true fact that some bad parts (faceless individuals or IAHs) of the Western Governments are supporting such confusing money making practices of Internet Security Business Corporations, being well aware of these acts protected by money-fed laws}.

MS Corporation along with Norton Internet Security’s system doing business in the similar unscrupulous ways as the Banking fund managers along with Insurance Companies are doing in the shield of…..official lies.
Mysteriously enough I have received some more evidences in support of my discovery when time to time apparently scam-like internationally sending of offers intensified (Certainly, the original sources are digitally traceable, if new laws are passed) in attempts of future validation in advance, to make rooms for their denial of wrongful involvements as scum of Corporations. Of course these scum are protected by North-American or British laws!
I have no doubt in my mind about the accuracy of my findings as I have witnessed how a leader Corporation: the Crown Corporation of Canada did lots of wrong doings involving a false case arranged against myself.
Some from my first hand direct personal experiences are as follows: Primarily, it arranged such situations around me, so that I could act like a stupid or real criminal and get killed by third parties leaving no clue behind what actually had happened.
And consequently, more than one, scary attempts have been made; then
* I received a very small bribe-like payment for my injury after I made a hand written request to the Crown’s local office…..from US originated employer.
* The bench Order made in the court room by a highly Honorable good Justice with dark skin like me have not been honoured after confirmation by a Crown personnel named: Trisha, who later disappeared to be found no where (Digital proofs are must be in the phone company recordings, if not modified or hacked by super-powerful Canadian Crown Corporation).
* False reports and improper…./been used. 
* Court reporters were not permitted to provide me with electronic copies for which I paid over Canadian $ 1000.00 when Microsoft Corporation disabled my paid service for MS words.
* Numerous Crown documents including my paid transcripts have been manipulated and in several occations Microsoft Corporation secretly took part in the manipulations of which, at least one really honorable good Justice named: Mr. Durno has been informed offic….
*My witnesses including Ms. Agnieszcka, Gelena, Michelle and others at my work place have somehow either been intimidated or bribed, so that they-being my very good friends and co-workers, all of a sudden become fearful about having contact with me, therefore, deprive me of receiving honest witness-supports from them.
And the list goes on….......

We need our currently somewhat overdone and imbalanced North-American Laws to be gradually changing for improvements; firstly, may start with banning of official lies.
The Head of Government of Governments: The Honorable President of USA can only but surely make the difference starting from homeland to neighboring countries and finally the rest of the World for earning international respect and regain our North-American territorial position once again as the best humanitarian power and place on Earth.

Mr. Islam, Sharia I swear I understood n-o-t-h-i-n-g you are trying to say.

Hi Mr. pgillenw, Thanks for your opinion but Sharia type blind belief based things has nothing to do with me. I know, the letters in my name may create some confusion for some but what can I do about it? I could foolishly try to change it but cannot modify the reality. Please don’t get me wrong!
Sorry, for my failure to give you a clear picture rightaway of what I am trying to say but I shall try to be bold after securing my personal safety first, but of-course without causing any harm of humanly cruelty or envy to anyone except may be even financial losses but pain of feeling shame from honest admission of wrong doings of a few-who are responsible for my eternal losses.

Hi Mr. pgillenw, Thanks for your opinion but Sharia type blind belief based things has nothing to do with me. I know, the letters in my name may create some confusion for some but what can I do about it? I could foolishly try to change it but cannot modify the reality. Please don’t get me wrong!
Sorry, for my failure to give you a clear picture rightaway of what I am trying to say but I shall try to be bold after securing my personal safety first, but of-course without causing any harm of humanly cruelty or envy to anyone except may be even financial losses but pain of feeling shame from honest admission of wrong doings of a few-who are responsible for my eternal losses.

Barry Schmittou

Sep. 5, 2011, 10:46 a.m.

Hi Geoff

You asked :

“Who is actually running this country, the CIA or the elected government”

I agree with pgillenw’s response with one addition.

The corruption and evil destruction of lives is so identical and connected worldwide, I sincerely believe the devil is in control of the world’s leaders.

I don’t see how such a worldwide pattern of evil could occur unless a Supernatural power is involved. As I’ve mentioned Ephesians 6:12 mentions “wickedness in high places” and there are so many examples of wickedness exhibited by the world’s leaders.

I sincerely pray they will realize they are being controlled by evil, stop it, and then start representing justice for all !

There is also much sincere goodness and love exhibited by many people on earth and I believe that comes from God !!

I hope everyone will watch the documentary Food Inc. to see how much control corporations have over food production. Did you know that ammonia is used to clean meat. You can also see how top people in the Clinton and Bush administrations worked for the huge corporations that they are now supposed to monitor.

And if anyone thinks either political party is seeking justice and liberty for all, please go to treasonevidence.blogspot.com to see widespread destruction of lives enabled by Obama and Bush’s DOL and DOJ.

What if, Obama and UN approve a new law to be internationally passed in the future that will make mandatory for every voter to use digital electronic tools like cellphones, laptop etc. through any of the social business networking programs such as Facebook for voting , banking, job, education etc, allowing unrestricted UN / Governments access to the activities of every citizen of the ‘to be crime-free new world’ then, good citizens shall have nothing to fear but be happy to enjoy safety and freedom and bad citizens wouldn’t have no choice but become better!

When a single or a group of individuals becomes too caucious about right protection, privacy laws etc. it has surely something to hide.


If all they wanted is money, they got it and still can make it elsewhere like China, India, Pakistan etc. But for what? There hardly one can notice signs of happiness or smiles on their face. Why? Are there some mysterious CIA facts yet to be learned by global public? I honestly say: Kudos to the dysfunctional smartness of human brain including the negatively powerful side of it too, which can turn boredom into exitement to make societal living for all, a bit colorful for a while. What would be the world without mind boggling incidents but some groups unfortunately, having too much money at their disposal cannot smile as a natural expression of enjoying life.
Obama is blessed if he may continue smiling naturally as he is doing…..

Now a serious fact follows: Because of Media heads’ intentional or poor understanding of the scenes behind the scenes, up until now, the few heads in operating government powers confusingly undersood by the global Public as land pieces of Country-power which are in fact fake-powerful like parer-tigers; e.g. representing North Korea, Iran, Yemen, Bahrain, China, Pakistan, India etc. By the grace of Cosmic Creator the above are in serial for gradually becoming possible cosmic targets in an unprecedented “Non-violent, secularly occurring manner without usage of weapons by the opposition” of regime change after Syria. The Public of above pieces of lands should not feel threatened at all, as “Latest fashioned New kind of Politics will avoid old ‘Do or Die, Kill or be Killed etc. situations and strategies and must not cause anyone to perish by guns but monetary sanctions only; moreover, shall try to save old minded political leaders from being killed by the unwise mob-like portion of the agitated public or put on pre-determined dishonest trials.
The maximum non-capital punishment administered by UN’s ICC type totally unbiased body the failed leaders may receive is “with some conditions, “Suspended death sentences” for committing crimes against humanity. No territorial part of the mankind and /or proved good leaders (who dishonestly never blasts bombs and points at others like old style IAHs’ secret manner) are to be blamed for secularly occurring new ways of changes, rather all should praise the gift of greatness: the digital communication tool of Microsoft technology for making the change easier through awareness to the benefit of humanity on earth!We need not to believe anything that does not make common sense. The intuitive sense of mankind constantly getting sharper and can perceive what actually happening behind apparent scenarios, therefore, do not take blindly for granted whatever news the Medias broadcasts! Now, the first questions they got used to in asking is something like: ‘How do you know for sure who is claiming what? Dirty old style dishonest politics?However, all these prove that hereditary style transfer of ruler-ship has already become unpopular in the closely connected and digitally communicated public minds of the rapidly changing world!But I am glad that my Canada’s actual ruler: the Queen is wise enough not to make her hands dirty by doing any of the nasty things like the other small rulers do. I am so proud of her honesty and intellectuality! God bless her.

ibsteve2u:  Also, according to Michelle Bachmann, she wants to also do away with income tax?  How does she expect to pay for our government and infrastructure without income tax monies?  I am sincerely afraid that one of the Republican shills will become our next president (especially if it’s Perry).....our country, as we now know it, will be no more!

Our country is being chipped away systematically day by day. The elite drunk with power aiding the greedy who line the elites bank rolls are stealing this once great nation from its sovereigns.

@Didi Paano:  Me, I think our “right” is way far gone…I arrive at that conclusion from both what they have done and what they seek to do - to include your observation that they seek to eliminate our ability to afford “government” and the services government provides.  Me, I think that our “right” is so far gone that they pose a significant threat to the American people and the long-term survival of the United States of America - and many other currently sovereign nations.

Strategically speaking, it takes a vibrant, healthy economy to both provision and afford a vigorous, capable standing military.  But the reality (observable to any individual on the planet even from satellite imagery) is that our “right” has been assiduously working to destroy America’s industrial infrastructure.  That is a bad thing, for not only did our industrial infrastructure serve as our (any nation’s, in fact) true arsenal, but it was the primary source of the taxes that allowed us to spend so much on our military that their counter-spending somewhat hastened the USSR’s already inevitable collapse. 

To be blunt about it, “the right” (and the neoliberal Democrats, to include all responsible parties) have destroyed the backbone of America’s defense.

The consequence is that we can no longer reequip a military taking punishment in a large-scale war nor afford a large-scale war - particularly, not one in which we have the luxury of dictating the confines of the battlefield.  The fact that weaponry has evolved greatly since WWII must also be weighed when considering the overall implications of the right’s actions in light of the fact that anticipating a couple of years of grace as we had between 1941 and 1943 in which we might rebuild America’s shattered industrial sector is simply a fool’s game when modern weaponry can flatten (from a safe distance!) whatever we attempt to build even as we make the attempt.

You have to look at those actions in the terms of military strategy, and ask yourself:  Why would “the right” feel comfortable disarming the United States of America?  How can you explain the contradiction between leaving us incapable of fighting (let alone winning) a large-scale war and their hyperbole concerning the significance of the threat posed by strategically ineffectual bands of criminals such as al Qaeda?

Could it be that the American right (as represented by the Republicans, the Tea Party, the modern libertarians, et al) feels that humankind has evolved past using war as a means of settling differences and acquiring resources? 

lolllll….the answer to that question is a resounding No!.  You can rule that possibility out with the simple fact that our right lied us into Iraq (themselves using war to acquire resources and manipulate markets) and they’re not quite stupid enough to think that slaughter for profit and personal gain is an act limited to themselves alone of all of the power-hungry humans on this planet.

The cumulative sum of the right’s actions tells me that our right is either depending upon an alliance that they have made with the communists in China unbeknownst to the America people and/or upon the threat of our atomics to dissuade China’s growing military from aggressive actions that extend beyond the conquest of Asia and Europe.

I believe both are true, for the right has been using China’s labor to attack both organized and unorganized “labor” (as the right names the American people) in America while transferring our industry (again, any nation’s true arsenal) to the PRC wholesale…literally by the truck-, train-, plane-, and boatload….even though China is growing their military…even though China is ever more ‘assertive’ in Southeast Asia…

I absolutely believe that our right is plenty stupid enough to think that they can destroy the futures of the American people without much personal risk to themselves because they see America’s atomics as their “hole card” - the threat that will stop China’s military (assuming they go on the offensive) from anything more than conquering Asia and Europe. 

And that ain’t good; nukes are a one-way street for humanity.

And since I keep pointing at the PRC, I should add:

There is, of course the question of would China ever take such an action?  If so, why?  To answer that, you have to know the way the kind of people who are unbounded by morality or empathy “for the masses” think. 

Such think that slaughtering many to acquire resources and…to dredge a word up from history…lebensraum is acceptable behavior. Such think that “Because they can!” and “Because nobody can stop them!” are enablers; I refer again to the fact if the invasion of Iraq by Bush, Cheney, & PNAC, LLP…(or the German invasion of Poland or Austria…etc. etc. etc.) 

There are “Iraqs” in the PRC’s future…there are islands, lands, and nations that they covet.  Who will stop them?  And there is the question of would the PRC ever stop, should they seize upon our “right’s” method of satiating their…lusts?  Especially once the lesson that they have successfully used our right’s greed to weaken the United States of America beyond repair really sinks in? 

Remember that there are humans whose limits are not based upon morality or ethics; rather they are based upon threat…based upon “How much can I/we get away with?”.  I refer you to our own Wall Street, banking, Corporate America…or, again, our “right” and Iraq…and remind you that such humans are not unique to America.

(You might observe that that there is absolutely no significant difference between the way the kind of people who enforce communism as totalitarianism nominally because “the people need ‘guidance’” and the way the kind of people who claim that “democracy is mob rule” think.)

I am trying to understand why the sovereign continues to believe there is real differences between a power grubbing democrat and that of a power grubbing republican.

Obama has continued to give away American jobs—and both party elected are equally complicit.

Obama had a chance to end his war and he did not. Trillions spent on desert rats when a simple solution would be to deny the rats access to American soil. Border protection to the scum on capital hill seems to elude them.

America needs to heal herself—we need to stay out of other country’s business. Stop aid to all states of terror and that includes Mexico.

@pgillenw:  The right - the Republicans - are not attractive to me because they desire to chain the American people into economic slavery; to make the lives of the American people a charitable gift rather than a right; to limit the very duration of the lives of the many in America to the extent of their usefulness to the few who are the right. 

So offer an alternative to the Democrats and Obama, pgillenw. 

The Tea Party is an illusion - a tool of totalitarianism.  See

http://exiledonline.com/a-peoples-history-of-koch-industries-how-stalin-funded-the-tea-party-movement/

Ron Paul is a non-starter for he is a libertarian; the Koch brothers who control the Tea Party also bankroll libertarians and are even now raising money to undermine democracy and enable open predation upon the American people.  See:

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/09/koch-brothers-million-dollar-donor-club

Among Paul’s goals you can count strengthening the dollar - regardless of the fact that doubling the value of the dollar would make offshore labor twice as cheap, causing jobs to flee America twice as fast and so inflicting even more suffering upon the American people.

So name me an alternative to Obama and the Democrats, pgillenw.

ibsteve2u, It is a damn shame when one thinks that Obama is the only choice. Truth is the only candidate that has been truthful in what he believes in is Ron Paul. The rest of the runners, hot air and way to much baggage.

I did not vote for Obama in his last run and he will certainly not get my vote in the next. This fellow has done more to divide this nation, bends to Islam and play more overt political games. He is intelligent, I give him that. He is a political animal. He has through the use of an executive order granted back door amnesty which the majority of Americans do not want, to bad he wants Illegal votes.

He and Eric Holter simply refuse to enforce our existing laws. He allows invasion of our nation while defending the borders of Afghanistan and Iraq. Give me a break.

Obama was not ready to be POTUS and he still is not ready.

So far Ron Paul has my vote. He alone stirs it up against his own party and as well the dem’s.

lolll…that took long enough, pgillenw.

All of that hemming and hawing around you did…your efforts to convince the reader that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are acceptable made it perfectly obvious that you are a Libertarian.

I personally evaluate the goals of the right - and of the the modern libertarians in particular - as no more and no less than the dismantling of government; a goal that they will agree they have.  But their claim is they wish to dismantle government in order to bring jobs to America and so make America a better place for the American people - and that is a lie.

The goal of the right and the libertarians is, in fact, to make it easier for those who already have wealth to both ensure that nobody else - particularly not “labor” as the bottom 95% (economically speaking) of the American people are known to the wealthy - can accumulate wealth and the elimination of the government’s ability to prevent the wealthy from preying upon those who do not already have sufficient wealth to either defend themselves or flee.

By which I mean that government currently stops corporations and their owner/operators from working Americans to death for starvation wages; government currently prevents corporations from inflicting dangerous work environments upon the American people; government currently ensures that an injured or aged worker can survive without a job; government currently curtails the ability of the corporations and their owner/operators to poison the American people with toxic emissions that would otherwise poison our air, land, and water, and on and on.

The right - which includes and perhaps even is lead by the “libertarians” - wishes to eliminate those government capabilities…they seek to leave the American people defenseless in an America where wealth makes right.

Libertarians wish to see “the American Dream” destroyed entirely and the American people shoved out of America as we know it now and into an even bleaker version of Dickensian England…into short, harsh lives demarcated by death rather than joy.

Whether you know it or not, pgillenw.

If that were not the case, the Koch brothers would not support libertarians and the extremist right.  It was the government’s clamping down on the gross violations of the Koch brothers and their businesses that made them create political tools like the Tea Party and ramped up their support of libertarians.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Koch_Industries#Pollution_-_Spills.2C_fines_and_indictments

MoreTax on rich: A smart and right move! Men can solve man-maid problems for sure, if an unseen approval is there.
This move will force some imbalanced minded greedy business guys out of USA but after a while they have to come back to our Great North-America and restart their businesses by agreeing to pay taxes at higher rates because this territory will still be the best on earth for living a better citizen’s happier life.
Moreover, the economic booms in places like China, India etc. are temporary because ‘trade controlling switch’ is in our hands.

We are still blessed and can prudently print globally absorbing more of our money now to play a balancing positive game and still choose a plan and start, effective immediately, to repay debts for over an extended period. We cannot help a deteriorating relationship because China is not honest in dealings and therefore, will be the last party to get paid unless its businessmen follow the new standard to be amended and reset by a newly strengthened UN power.


Shahislam

Bad Pakistani guys in control of political power in 1971 killed 3 million members of foolish (independent seeker for nothing) Bangladeshi public (Indians have been better off and now is envy of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis). The activities and personal monetary interests of similar minded Pak-guys were up until recent time protected by policies and a group of lawmakers etc. of USA and the West!
Laws and policies made by humans can easily be reversed or modified as long as more honest guys continue to join in in the administrative managements of artificial but immortal Crocodile (An important and “highly beneficial super power-if managed by honest and wise guys”, in control of all other smaller powers in the world).

Like many of the new generation public, I am very optimistic about watching honest personalities like Great Mr. Obama lead the world power and get reborn for continuing the efforts of changing the old-style global politics in unprecedented ways, only to make the world more peaceful than ever historically experienced by mankind.
There should be no more ‘old political but secret personal money dealings allowed to take place’ and we the good heads of Western powers can change the trend to the dismay of foolish heads of the newly emerging powers which are just imitating copies of our old Western foreign policies!

The secrets are gradually opening, so, it’s about time for us to start a different kind of politics.

How many of the US public representatives actually care for fixing ties with ego-blind leaders: such as, of Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Palestine, Israel, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Burma, Taiwan etc. that are as heads of political powers, with their dumb intelligences still fail to realize that dishonest manipulation of facts behind the scenes ultimately does no good but cause global unrests that effect everyone including self!

And instead of finding out the secret perpetrators of brutal politicking heads or IAHs (with own individual smart capacity whether doubtlessly there are still collectible and provable evidences of a group of oil and weapon-business-men’s secret involvement) tries to spread short visioned propaganda that eventually becomes self-destructive {(through unseen application of the Cosmic rules) and e.g. when good common sense tells: there were no additional bomb-blasts in WTC in addition to the explosive impacts of two air-planes and the intelligence of some religiously blind rulers that yet deliberately lies against lies to create further confusions; or when the fact finding or poor judgmental ability of some forever blaming UN delegations including the walk-outers (it is immature or wicked childish and unwise to refuse to hear oppositions’ points of views at an UN meeting and walk out!) is below collective intelligence of average global public, it plays a dangerous role to indirectly become one of the main causes of humanity’s or in other words: mankind’s unnecessary hardship on this Earth-which is the only place for human existence with reality based imaginations that are mundanely experienced!

These guys are the unwise ones who for limited knowledge, contradict collective aim towards peaceful solutions and thus ruin own possible role of acting right in implementing peaceful ideas of sharing a happy Earth by all of the human races.

 

Shahislam

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