Anne, The point is that “ensoulment” is irrelevant to this discussion.  In ancient times, ant by that I mean before effective microscopy, mankind had no idea hiow conception anctally worked.  We could obverve cause and effect, but we did not know what was happening at the cellular and sub-cellular levels. 

So we came up with mere speculations about conception, often by analogy to what we saw in nature with plants and seeds.  People thought that fathers planted seeds in mothers, and at some later point God or something or somebody put in a “soul.”

We know better now.  Now we know what actually happens, about cell meiosis and genes and DNA.  Now there is no questioin.

What remains is a legal and moral questions about what we are to make of this knowledge.  The baby-murderers are trying to play with ancient mysteries left over from pre-scientific times to support a regime of intentional murder for mere social, economic and cosmetic convenience.  As they say on South Park when Kenny is killed, “You Bastards!”

@DB, you almost had me convinced and then I went back to reading the damning over 200 page grand jury report of the attrocities.  As skeptical as I am and slow to believe something just because someone, especially our government says so, it defies logic how any of these people charged did not know what was going on.  there is no way that these people are not guilty, the evidence is too widespread .  There is no way that a “doctor” runs a business with babies floating in jars and a collection of baby feet in another and somehow overlooking the fact that someone planted them there so he would get caught.  No way to explain hiring a 15 year old girl to work in that house of horrors or of hiring people who weren’t doctors but said they were and billed as thought they were and administered anesthetic up to and including the time that one woman died due to the anesthesia.

There was a failure to CARE.  And everyone let stuff slide on by while more babies died with their only human touch being that of their murders.

The grand jury report, which is made up of individuals like you and me, depicts in graphic detail (as it should) all the things going on there and how over 15 years right on down the line those who were charged with investigating these things just didn’t do it.

You know why?  Because of the mentality that “what women do with their own bodies is their own business”.  That is the PC viewpoint, to be open-minded about the whole thing because that’s what the progressives among us would have you do.

These babies died and sorry, but it was an abortion mill.  The author need not, as you say, have disgraced her profession for telling the truth.  You can pick any page out of the grand jury report and come up with horrific details.

To call it anything but what it is would be silly and foolish when its clear as day that over 15 years those abuses were unknown.  What reason does someone have for keeping the babies you murdered in a jar or a collection of baby feet.  This is just disgusting enough to imagine that creep jacking off by looking at the evidence of the power of life and death he wields.

Most criminals except the absolute insane have the good sense to get rid of the evidence but these people kept the dead babies as trophies.

The sad fact is that these tiny precious babies (if viewing them as that makes me a nosy busybody so be it, I’d have it no other way) died and the only “human?” touch they felt was the touch of the person or persons who murdered them.

That is depraved and disgusting and how anyone can keep a “professional and detached view of this is beyond me.  I don’t want to know how any of you does that because I have no desire to be “open-minded” or PC.  No thank you.

You know what, the thing that makes this really sick, or one of them, the final irony, is that this would be viewed so differently if a few details were changed.

If this was some sort of research expedition done by archeologists and researchers and explorers and they discovered evidence of this society that had this little shop of horrors in its midst,

anyone who discovered that would have released the news and we’d all be astir about what heathens they were “back then”.

Playing games with words so as not to offend anyone seems to me to be a crime too, a crime of complasence by we modern “humans”.  We haven’t advanced all that far since our neanderthal predecessors IMO.

@Mikela: If someone would have been an honest person who cared more about human life than monetary gain, “whistleblower”, less lives may have been lost.

Whistleblowers should be in every profession since the act increases the overall safety of society.

From the grand jury report:
“Let us say right up front that we realize this case will be used by those on both sides of the abortion debate. We ourselves cover a spectrum of personal beliefs about the morality of abortion. For us as a criminal grand jury, however, the case is not about that controversy; it is about disregard of the law and disdain for the lives and health of mothers and infants. We find common ground in exposing what happened here, and in recommending measures to prevent anything like this from ever happening again.”
The grand jury report is a sobering and damning account of a corrupt, sloppy doctor and the failure of public officials, insurance companies and the doctor’s peers to stop what was happening in plain sight.
I think everyone should sit down and read the report. It’s available in PDF from ProPublica.

You can thank the pro-life mob with their endless protests, frivolous lawsuits, threats and acts of violence. If not for them abortions would be performed in hospitals, and this kind of horror would never have taken place.

Hi DB,

Thanks for your thoughtful comment. I do realize that abortion is a charged issue, and I hear you about how language can be used to ideological ends.

In this case, the grand jury report describes Gosnell’s clinic as an “abortion mill” because of its high volume of clients and substandard care. The report doesn’t refer to every abortion clinic in this way—just this one—and I certainly don’t want to give the impression that every abortion clinic is a “grisly abortion mill.”

Hope this helps clarify.

Best,
Marian