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Gulf Claims Czar Makes Mixed Progress on Transparency Pledges

Gulf spill paymaster Kenneth Feinberg has made mixed progress in carrying out his transparency promises. 

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steel kirton

Jan. 16, 2011, 11:18 p.m.

I’ve been paid since b.p. was over the process, when gccf took over I received an eap in Sept. and filed my final on Oct. 12th. My supporting documentation is through the roof (thanks to b.p. they made me bring it but they paid me) its been under review (so they say) since Nov. They said those of us who filed finals before the deadline will have priority, but they say they haven’t come up with the method yet. So does anyone have any idea of when we will see final lump sum claims getting paid?

kit

Jan. 17, 2011, 2:05 p.m.

Mr. Feinberg is making a town hall tour right now and after that I have read he will establish the protocol.  I have also read that they are going to begin reviewing interim and final claims as of Feb 1.  I hope that’s true.  When I filed my interim claim in late December and the person told me they have 90 days from the filing to present an offer…

Molly

Jan. 17, 2011, 3:37 p.m.

I just do not believe anything he say.  He always will say one thing to the public and the media but will do the complete oppostie behind close doors.  Final claims were supposed to be processed and was a options for individuals and businesses in August when the program first started. Here it is a new year and nothing as happened.  He will continue to drag his feet trying to force people into taking the quick claim or to just give up.

Kenneth

Jan. 17, 2011, 4:07 p.m.

I have no faith in his ability to oversee a claims proecss of this magnitude; what is loss in all of the rhetoric he atttempts to spin is people with legitimate claims have been waiting over 9 months for a favorable decision

RachelM

Jan. 17, 2011, 4:23 p.m.

I just drove from Perdido Key Fl to the end of West Beach in AL and all I wanted to do was take a few photos of the beach.  I found one spot of beach in Perdido Key that you had public access but it was heavy patrolled by guys on 4 wheelers.  I drove to a private house that is on the Gulf in West Beach AL knowing I could get on the beach there.  I was wrong.  They had it all crossed off from as far as the T where 59 south ends to the end of West Beach.  Since this was a private residence I felt I could go as far as I could to take pictures.  I was greeted by guys on 4-Wheelers asking me what I was doing.  I told them I just wanted to take some photos of the beach.  They asked me to leave.  I then told them I was at a private residence and they said “So, we are still asking you to leave.”.  I did not cross the line of yellow tape strung for miles on the beach.  By the time I reached my car security was patrolling and I was waiting to be stopped.  It’s like a military lock down of the beach.  I stopped at Bahama Bobs in Gulf Shores and went in and had a sandwich.  Here I talked to the waitress who had even more horror stories to tell me.  I was sitting next to two tourist and they said it’s a mess and if they had known it was this bad still they would have booked their three month vacation someplace else.  What I could see on the beach it’s a mess.  Black pea size balls everywhere and they are saying it’s safe to be on the beach.. what beach you can find to walk on. 

If any of you are on Pensacola Beach or Perdido Key please let me know.  I would like to get about 15 minutes of video and a few photos of it and not be harassed and run off by the BP workers.

Edward McCormack

Jan. 17, 2011, 6:25 p.m.

I was hopeful when the GCCF was formed that Ken Feinberg would deliver a claims process that was fair and made the victims of the oil spill whole.  To say that I am disappointed in Mr. Feinberg and the GCCF would be a tremendous understatement.

Mr. Feinberg’s stated goal was to provide timely payment for verifiable claims that would be as favorable, or more favorable than the Claimants would realize if they sued BP.  Why not just strive to make the Claimants whole?

As a Partner in a National acoounting firm I have accounted for business income losses throughout the gulf for over thirty years.  If any insurance company treated their clients the way the GCCF has treated the spill victims, they would be sued for bad faith.  Every reporter across the nation would be reporting about the evil insurance companies, and the insurance companies would do whatever it took to get in compliance; hiring staff, lawyers, adjusters, accountants; whatever it took to get people’s claims paid. 

Feinberg has hired a bunch of people, but they are mouthpieces, they don’t get anything done.  One of my employees, A CPA spoke with a GCCF “accountant” regarding a client’s claim.  The GCCF “Accountant” had just completed high school and had absolutely zero formal accounting training, let alone experience or credentials.

The firm heading up the GCCF’s accounting was originally hired by BP.  This hardly conveys the appearance of independence.

With a lot of complaining, Feinberg has allowed Claimants to seek legal aid from the Mississipppi Center for Justice.  While this is an improvement, it would be nice if the GCCF didn’t put constraints on who you could seek legal assistance from.  Perhaps they could cap fees instead.  Also, given that lawyers typically will require the use of experts, it would make sense that the GCCF also authorize reasonable professional fees for the use of accountants, engineers, doctors, etc. necessary to independently establish the value of spill victims’ claims.

Finally, the GCCF needs to be above board and transparent in its dealings with Claimants.  My clients have received payments from the GCCF.  However, the payments were considerably less than the submitted claims, and there has been no response to repeated requests for explanation of how the payment amounts were determined by the GCCF. 

This arrogance, whether intentional or not, can not and should not be abided.  I plan to attend the town hall meeting in Panama City, and urge everyone who can to attend any meeting they can make it to.  Mr. Feinberg and the GCCF should know that the people of the gulf demand fair treatment, not the treatment BP authorizes.

Trisha

Jan. 17, 2011, 8:02 p.m.

@ Beach 4x4
I have had a Business @ SRB for 13 years and have been reading your (and others) post and thought I had your email address saved but cannot find it, could you email me @ .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).  Also Chamber Of Commerce will sponsor a Town Hall Meeting with Feinberg Wednesday Jan 19 @ 8:30 am @ Emerald Coast Conv. Center on Okaloosa Island

steel kirton

Jan. 17, 2011, 9:47 p.m.

@ ed

ed that was hands down the best summary of the situation at hand. its a must we all let our voices be heard. we are not the only ones viewing this site. believe me you if we don’t let up we will bust the pipe that fienberg and his staff of “mouthpieces”  have on deck…...you just don’t fail to remember pressure bust pipes. don’t give up….my business washed up with the oil, I’ve been fighting from the time b.p. set up shop on navy blvd. in pensacola, fl. I was one of the first to get paid (in the beginning of june) and it didn’t come easy, but if you got the supporting documentation apply pressure and don’t let up, apply the laws of physics to the task at hand and make the pipe bust…DNT GIVE UP!

Trisha

Jan. 17, 2011, 10:58 p.m.

@ Edward
Well said!!! When and where will Feinberg be in Panama City?  I am driving to Orange Beach tomorrow, he will be at the Orange Beach Rec Center @ 12:45 doors open @ 11;30 (Jan. 18th).  I’m in my 9th Month waiting on these Jerks and am so-oh close to having to close my doors
on my Business not to mention what it has done to my Employees, Family and me personally.  I know Individuals are hurting, but Small Businesses I have talked with have not had any help nor explanation.  Are we still in AMERICA.

Kit

Jan. 18, 2011, 1:05 a.m.

we took pictures on gulf shores and ft morgan last week and had no problem, but they were getting ready to go home, so they didn’t care.  we have tons of photos.  btw, feinberg will be in panama city on wed.  check the website.

Todd

Jan. 18, 2011, 2:45 a.m.

@rachelm,  do you have pictures showing they won’t allow you in certain areas of the beach, if so, can you send them to me so i can take them to the town hall meeting in pcb on wed and ask questions with facts? pls let me know! How come the local news hasn’t made an uproar over this?

RachelM

Jan. 18, 2011, 8:41 a.m.

@Todd,

  I wished I had photos.  If you drive from the Hangout to the end of West Beach you will see and see everything is roped off.  I was at a private residence almost to the end of West Beach and security is so tight I was really afraid to be there by my self.  Single older woman I value my safety more than a picture.  Example:  Pensacola News Journal has both print and online paper.  BP is running adds in both.  Full page of News Journal is more than $10,000 per run.  The media outlets are not going to lose their bread and butter ads like BP to run negative ads about them.  It has already been established that BP has spent more on telling the world they are making it right and putting every ones lives back to normal than Feinberg has spent out of the 20 billion fund.

CG

Jan. 18, 2011, 11:01 a.m.

Just found out I have to redo my claim! I submitted my final on 12/1 now they are saying it is missing 2 pages but they don’t know which 2! a bunch of jackasses! I submitted my final on line ...now I have to go to the GCCF office and file my final all over again! I hate this b.s.!

Molly

Jan. 18, 2011, 11:21 a.m.

CG

How did you find that out.  Did you call and they told you or did they send a letter to you?

Magen

Jan. 18, 2011, 11:32 a.m.

BAYOU LA BATRE, Alabama (WALA) - UPDATE: 9:35 a.m. “The emergency payment program is over, it ended November 23. Claims were paid, denied, people got what they deserved and were short changed. It is no longer accepting claims. We are now into the next phase of claims,” said Feinberg.

Every claimant can consider one of three options, said Feinberg.

1.) Final payment - document past damage and current damage in the next two or three weeks we will announce a final payment formula. to give anyone who wants it a full and final payment for all past, present and future damage. a lump sum check.

“You have to give up your right to sue,” said Feinberg.

2.) Interim payment - I’m not yet ready for a final payment, I don’t know about future, and I don’t want to give up my right to sue yet. Anyone who doesn’t like the final payment offer who feels like it is too early, you may come into the GCCF and receive a payment. You don’t give up your right to sue and you can keep coming back until you decide you want a final payment. For every quarter that this is your option, you can take an interim quarterly payment. No reason to give up your right to sue. That is for those who want to wait and see what the future holds. Document the last quarters damage.

3.) Quick payment - Received an emergency payment or can’t document any further damage. Check off the box and receive an emergency payment - quick payment. Five thousand dollars for a person, $25,000 for a business that has received an emergency payment. You give up your right to sue, you can’t come back later and sue. already received an emergency payment and/or can’t document your loss.

“You be the judge what works best for you, not anyone else,” said Feinberg. “Final payments will go out next month. Just because you were denied for emergency payment doesn’t mean you can’t get the final payment. We will look at your payment anew.”

“Doesn’t help a fisherman one iota not to work. It will not increase your GCCF check if you don’t fish, oyster or shrimp,” said Feinberg. “You’ve got to work and show you can in order to get your damage. Go out and fish and oyster and shrimp because you aren’t helping yourself with your claim if you voluntarily decide not to work.

“Final payment, interim payments will go out in February. The quick payments are going out right now the five and $25,000 payments.”

Jimmy Cobb, with the Catalina Seafood restaurant since 1967, addressed Feinberg.

“Our survival is tied to the survival of seafood shops and their families,” said Cobb. “The availability and price continues to be a problem, particularly crab claws and oysters, due to weak economy. We would have to raise the price at the risk of losing customers.”

Cobb said so it is absorbing the cost.

“Maybe we are stupid people, waiting for you to bend over backwards to be more generous that the courts to take care of us,” said Cobb.

9:21 a.m. Around 200 people have come to the Bayou La Batre Community Center for a meeting with BP claims czar Ken Feinberg. This is Feinberg’s second meeting in the Bayou.

Bayou La Batre Mayor Stan Wright, Mobile County Commissioner Mike Dean and Dauphin Island Mayor Jeff Collier have each chosen three people to address Feinberg.

Mobile County Commissioner Mike Dean chose Jay McCray with Cedar Point, Bill Bailey from Bailey’s Seafood and Nancy Myers, a Realtor from Dauphin Island, to question Feinberg.

Wright said the people of Bayou La Batre have been overlooked and that officials are only looking after Baldwin County.

“Feinberg needs to know our people are important, too,” said Wright.

Wright has called the meeting to order, and thanked everyone for coming.

“Today is our day. We need to concentrate on south Mobile County,” said Wright.

Wright then pointed to the representatives from BP.

“They’ve got a lot of computers and technology, but not one of them has a checkbook,” said Wright. “We need help. Myself, I haven’t worked since May 6. I know there are some people in worse shape than I am. I said yesterday I am going to pick from the richest person to the poorest person.”

Wright has chosen four people instead of three to address Feinberg. Two of the speakers are Walter Craven to represent the shrimp industry and Jimmy Cobb from the restaurant industry.

“Baldwin County has gotten a lot of attention. They are still cleaning sand, but we still need food on the table. God loves people in south Mobile County, too,” said Wright.

Wright reminded everyone to be on their best behavior.

“Get out of line we are going to put you in jail,” said Wright. “Mr. Feinberg you ready to take the hot seat?”

Feinberg then came to the podium.

April Douglas will have more throughout the day from the meeting, and will have a complete recap of the day’s events tonight on FOX10 News at 5 p.m.

CG

Jan. 18, 2011, 1:02 p.m.

@Molly I called them ,,,everytime I called I get a different answer! Now they are saying to need to go to the local office and file. I went there and they told me I should do the $25K quick pay because my business just started this year! They are insane! I am sick over this bull!!! I am doing nickel and dime jobs trying to make it none of my condo owners can afford to hire me to paint or do repairs and winter is usually busy !  The EAP was a joke also but hell you have to take what you get….

CG

Jan. 18, 2011, 2:18 p.m.

I was told that if anyone filed there final online that it didn’t work so you have to print it out and fill it out and email it or the GCCF will mail out for you.

CG

Jan. 18, 2011, 2:44 p.m.

Wow….now someone else is telling me not to complete the form again or it could delay my final…...they said that there are 2 new forms that were added on 12/17/10 but they can’t tell where the damned form is!!I don’t know who the hell to listen too!!!!

RachelM

Jan. 18, 2011, 2:56 p.m.

@CG

  Wait another 2 weeks.  It seems they are adding more people you can’t sue to the will not sue list.  Also they are stalling again.  I just was watching the Orange Beach meeting and it seems he’s pushing the final forms final claims process to the end of January.  Sorry but Feinberg is at it again.

Kenneth

Jan. 18, 2011, 2:57 p.m.

@CG, take comfort in knowing that you can download any form you will need from the GCCF website, they accept the forms online. The only form they will not accept via email or fax is the signed release; they need an original signature on file. As it relates to duplication of your claim, if you file again it will be under the same claim number but when you log on to view the status of your final or interim claim it will show two different internally assigned claim numbers but both will be assigned to your orginal claim number, so don;t worry about duplication of information.

Kenneth

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:02 p.m.

@Rachel, have you heard anything as it relates a specific date that he will post the final claim methodology. He says the exact same BS at every meeting, he could just send a videotape of the first meeting. He never answers any questions and when he gets pinned down to a specific claim he says “let me look into that one personally” he is so full of it. he is an attorney not an executive with claims processing experience. He has had some success with the WV settlement, the 911 settlement but that was a controlled situation with definitive issues. As it relates to the BP oil spill he is way out of his area of expertise and there is no reason for anyone having to wait 9 months for a claim to be process or to have to continue to wait until he decides to post the methodology. If he was processing claims fairly and equally I assure you few people would even question the methodology. It is a daunting task but he is being paid well to complete it and he is failing by many standards.

RachelM

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:13 p.m.

@Kenneth
I know everything out of Feinbergs mouth is Blah Blah Blah… However he has a few people on the inside that can’t stand him and they are only sticking around for the money.  So saying that….I highly suggest don’t do anything till right after Feb 1st.  You will receive another packet and there will be more names added to the do not sue list.  He is making deals with the devil and this is going to backfire on him. 
At 9am I was at my attorneys office going over the game plan.  I watched the live streaming video until they kept going off line and I gave up.  What I do know is he is out of touch with his own people.  He said he had no idea there was a problem with the downloaded forms from his own website.  People roared and he said he would make the call about it once he was done with the meeting.  He is out of touch with a lot of things.  No one will remember how he handled 9/11 cases or the VT case.  This will follow him forever and he can never dig himself out of this mess he’s gotten himself into.

He is pushing the final claims process really hard.  Even if he doesn’t completely have it worked out as of yet.  If I can get my fingers on a copy before it hits the press I will make sure I post on here.

Michelle

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:16 p.m.

How did they pay out the spill in Alaska? BP handled it right? Does anyone know? Does anyone know the website to get the average that companies make per year? I have been looking but nothing shows up went to the Government statistics page but nothing shows up

Molly

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:18 p.m.

Not to cut anyone off, but has anyone hear about BP receiving a permit from Australia to explore their waters for oil drilling?  It is messed up that BP has destroyed our livelihoods and continue to be so greedy and heartless.

CG

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:20 p.m.

Someone just called me he said we have to submit our 2010 taxes first before we can file the final or interim….They already have a formula they are so full of crap!

RachelM

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:24 p.m.

Molly -
I heard they are going to allow a Brazilian company do more drilling in the Gulf.  This was in the news about 4 or 5 months back.  Then someone linked that Brazil company with BP and then the media shut down with any news about it. 

Michelle ~
What type of business and what state.  Most IRS tax records are online.  If they are INC.  But you can just about anything doing a little digging.

RachelM

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:30 p.m.

CG~

They might have the formula but they don’t have the final paperwork ready for us to settle.  The average is normally 2.2 times your loss.  If your loss was 50k you should expect a offer of at least 110k for final settle.  If Feinberg stays greedy then I would guess he would only offer 1.25 then you would be offered only 75k. 
I’m guess the latter….........he is one stingy greedy coward.

Kenneth

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:32 p.m.

@Rachel, thanks for the insight, you appear to well informed, he has ruined two of my businesses already and I had to lay of 10 workers, ironically all of their claims were paid within weeks and he denied my business and personal claim. I can survive his delays on a personal level however on the business level I have had to close the doors this month. With all of the uncertainty I just couldn’t keep pumping money into employees not knowing what the future holds along the Gulf Coast tourism this year. I can deal with delays and business issues but in feinberg case there is not transparency, it is like just walking around not knowing what comes next or if anything comes next. No one person should weild that much power of so many others. I’ve operated a claims processing company that gave out millions after hurricane Katrina, it is a daunting task but if people have information they can better handle delays. With the GCCF no one knows anything nor are you told anything but they have your claim and then when you are denied you recieve a generic letter saying denied. he has to do a better job. when do you think he will start processing Full Review Final Claims? From the data posted there are not many more QP claims left to send out.

Molly

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:34 p.m.

Feinberg and the GCCF are defiantly having everyone on a “WILD GOOSE CHASE!” Of course the “Do not Sue” list is going to get longer.  I bet they didn’t realize they forget to put their own D??N name on the “Do not Sue” list (Meaning Feinberg & the GCCF). lol!!!

RachelM

Jan. 18, 2011, 3:55 p.m.

Kenneth~
  You have to try to be one step ahead of your enemy.  I’m out there everyday networking and building relationships with people that have a little more sense than I have with this process.  I closed down a few of my businesses but kept the employees.  Now they have their eyes and feet on the ground to help me help them for their future.  It’s hard and I will make it to the end but the frustration getting there is really a joke. 
  I have a wonderful attorney that I’m his only oil spill client.  He trusts me and I trust him.  He knows I have a huge claim and I will take very good care of him and his time.  Me and my staff will do all the legwork and he is there to guide us to the light at the end of the tunnel. 
 
OMG I forgot to mention. Has anyone seen the Ken Feinberg voodoo dolls.  I saw a picture of them and rolled laughing.  I guess he has officially been hoodoo’ed and voodoo’ed.

Michelle

Jan. 18, 2011, 4:05 p.m.

@RachelM…..Small paiting business


@CG…...was told that you have to keep submitting late bills… repo notices…ect….as well as your income and expenses for your business up until they offer a final or interim….I did’t know that…they said my file is not updated until I send information up to date….wow what a bunch of sh*t! More stalling from Feinburg!

jo

Jan. 18, 2011, 5:41 p.m.

DESTIN - Many people we talk to are complaining about having their BP oil claims denied but, one local business owner not only has been reimbursed the full amount of his claim. He’s also the new star of a BP commercial.


Today I met with Rick Scali. He’s the owner of Easy Street Vacation Rentals in Destin who says his business profits dropped 46 percent this past year. Resulting in a loss of one hundred thirty six thousand dollars in net profits.

Like every other business owner Rick filed a claim with BP and was reimbursed the full amount of his claim.

While working to get his business back on track, Rick says BP contacted him and asked if he would appear in one of their commercials.

Now Rick says at the time, BP had no idea he had already been reimbirsed for his claim, but he agreed to do the commercial.

Rick Scali/Easy Street Vacation Rentals: “They went over what they wanted the commercial to be about…My experience…Not in detail but the fact that BP had done what they said they were going to do.”

Rick also says that he was not compensated in any way for doing the commercial.

He says he simply did it because he wanted to let people know that our beaches are clean, tourists are coming back, and he’s looking forward to a more profitable season this year

al t

Jan. 18, 2011, 6:04 p.m.

“Like every other business owner Rick filed a claim with BP and was
reimbursed the full amount of his claim.

While working to get his business back on track, Rick says BP contacted him
and asked if he would appear in one of their commercials.

Now Rick says at the time, BP had no idea he had already been reimbirsed for
his claim, but he agreed to do the commercial.”

Doesnt this sap know he was paid in full by BP so they could innocently call him and put him in a commercial.  This is BP buddy. They manipulate everything.

Michelle

Jan. 18, 2011, 6:09 p.m.

What a bunch of B.S.! I won’t use that company EVER! If the beaches are clean why are tar balls washing up?

RachelM

Jan. 18, 2011, 6:26 p.m.

Stop it… my sides are hurting from laughing…Can’t take another BP joke today.

BP knew he was paid… for some reason he was paid in full.  So were the other BP spokes people telling the same sorry story.  BP is making our communities whole….BP is making it right… blah blah blah. 

BP paid for him to do the commercial..by paying his claim in full with no hassels.. So he was paid…

I will also boycott his company….  I* got a BIG mouth

RachelM

Jan. 18, 2011, 8:19 p.m.

NEW ORLEANS—The administrator of the $20 billion compensation fund for Gulf oil spill victims and BP are discussing how much he will be paid for his services in the months ahead.

A spokeswoman for Ken Feinberg confirmed Tuesday the talks are happening. But she declined to say whether the Washington attorney is seeking a raise from the $850,000 a month his firm has been receiving.

That fee amount was valid through Saturday. Feinberg’s contract with BP states that the two parties would discuss future fees on a quarterly basis. It also says that BP must approve any subcontractors Feinberg hires as part of the claims process.

A rig explosion last April off Louisiana killed 11 workers and led to 200 million gallons of oil being released from BP’s well a mile beneath the Gulf of Mexico.

Interview with Feinberg - AOL

Jan. 18, 2011, 9:55 p.m.

BK Beach 4X4

Jan. 19, 2011, 8:21 a.m.

Anyone else have any luck requesting a copy of your claim file from the GCCF? It has been three weeks and no such luck in my attempts.

When I submitted my Final Claim to BP, and then again to the GCCF I used very specific language stating that there were trade secrets submitted to offer a better understanding of the type and potential amount of the lost profits. In particular I insisted that the GCCF could not share my Claim documentation without seeking permission to do so from in writing.

As of today they still have not tell claimants who, or when a claim holders file has been accessed by individuals or corporations outside the immediate review and evaluation process.

If the GCCF has shared our documentation without our permission with BP, and then the claim is denied, our ability to recover lost profit or wages in a Federal court is injured. In the simplest terms possible, what lawyer in their right mind would offer their clients(Claim Holders) entire case to the defendant (BP) before proceeding to depositions or trial. The answer is ZERO lawyers would, or they would be guilty of a breach of their obligation to their clients.

As of today I do not have a copy of my claim file and do not know who the claim documentation is being shared with, it is a safe bet that BP does have a pipeline to the process since they are the client of Feinberg & Rozen.

Most claims that were denied were done so without specific detailed reasons for such denial. Then we are asked to provide additional argument in our attempts to be compensated from the damage done by the BP Spill. Although there is a privacy statement on the GCCF website, I have yet to determine if any content placed upon the GCCF site is intended to help or hinder the claims process.

Feinberg states with bravado,  that 150,000 claims were submitted without documentation. Really, 150K claim holders? With the credibility gap, or canyon, that Ken Feinberg has created with his actions, who in their right mind can trust anything that comes out of the administrators mouth.

One more thing, the payouts are for business or personal loss, since when does that recovery fall into taxable income?

bkbeach4x4-AT-gmail.com

BK Beach 4X4

Jan. 19, 2011, 8:23 a.m.

Sorry for the grammatical errors in the last post.

I should have waited for the coffee to kick in before posting.

jo

Jan. 19, 2011, 10:28 a.m.

I have a question I was self employed for 2 years had a tax receipt even filed my taxes then due to the oil spill I was not hired on with this company ...they sent me a letter stating that due to the oil spill they can’t afford to hire me…it was on their letter head signed and everthing they denied me…I filed my taxes to show I did have this company…if I am not working for myself any longer will that get me denied?

RachelM

Jan. 19, 2011, 10:40 a.m.

If anyone wants a good laugh on Feinberg go to Facebook and search for
Voo Dooberg.  Whoever made these had to be denied their claim.

Molly

Jan. 19, 2011, 2:32 p.m.

Jo

If you loss your self employment income due to the direct result of the oil spill, then you should try and get compensated for loss of earnings from your self employment income.  However, it will be very difficult to obtain loss of earning for a job that did not hire you. In order to prove your losses you have to show that you were hired and working for that company before and after the spill.  Another than that, they will stated that they company did no hire you because of the moratarium. This is the same excuse they are telling others to deny claims.

Molly

Jan. 19, 2011, 2:42 p.m.

BK Beach 4X4

Of course BP is looking at the claims.  It states on the GCCF website for final claims that BP has the right to appeal any final claim determination by Feinberg that is over 500K, meaning that BP is looking at the files. 

I hope you get your copy of your file, but it will probably be difficult. That is why I kept copies of everything I sent to them for my own records.  I keep emails, completed claims forms with attachment, and even have recorded convesations with the GCCF.  95% of all my communications with the GCCF is in email or recorded phone calls. They have lied to me and messed my claim up so much that I am glad that I kept good records.

BK Beach 4X4

Jan. 19, 2011, 8:14 p.m.

Molly I have every piece of information that I’ve produced and sent to the GCCF. However, since Feinberg is still claiming unbiased service the product created by the GCCF associated with our claims is what I’m interested in looking at. The service may be paid for by BP, but they have no right under any state or Federal law to withhold vital information that could be used to argue for successful recovery by a claim holder.

As for BP, it does not say anywhere in any of the material sent to claims holders, or on the website that the files sent in by the claim holders are to be shared with BP and anyone BP designates. The fact that BP can appeal any award over $250K, (first it was $450K) does not automatically give access to the files without offering the same access to claim holders.

There has to be a sense of fairness within the process, yet as we are well aware the so called Claimants Bill of Rights has zero penalty when violated by GCCF and Ken Feinberg.

If I do have to take the claim to Federal court my request for discovery will be long and extend from Ohio to the offices of Feinberg & Rozen. Especially since I have had direct contact with many of the principals involved in the process. It is amazing that if we were in a Federal court the lies, misrepresentations and fragrant violation of claim holders civil rights would require a remedy and approval by the claimants attorney. In this situation Ken Feinberg plays judge, jury and dfendant, without fear of reprisal.

Kit

Jan. 20, 2011, 1:37 a.m.

I am going to say something positive about Feinberg.  Actually, they have done a good job getting money to people who were working along the gulf and lost their jobs and suffered hour cuts as a result of tourists not coming and using the services.  Everyone of the people I worked with received payments from both BP and the GCCF. In some cases, they were not easy to get but we did get them.  Documentation was key and if you had all your documents, you got paid.  No, the process isn’t perfect, but it has worked to some extent.  I attended the Orange Beach meeting and most of the people who seemed ticked off were the condo owners and businesses who rent out multiple condos.  I don’t think any of these people got their cars taken away,

Randy

Jan. 20, 2011, 10:17 a.m.

I saw a portion on the news of what I think was the Orange Beach meeting. The person they showed was a businessman who was irate because he says “all the workers got paid and then left town, now none of the businesses have anyone to hire and are suffering because of that!”

Now things may be much different over there than they are in Pensacola but I think that’s a load of CRAP! It’s funny what the press chose to show on the news…..............ummmm no it isn’t.

Molly

Jan. 20, 2011, 10:31 a.m.

Well you just never know whether they had their cars taken away/loss or not.  You just can’t pass judgement against individuals. Yes, Feinberg did a good job.  However, in my opinion, he paid the majority of individuals with little income (the poorest with low income, never worked a day, drug dealers, etc.) The majority of the people I know of earned less than 30k per year but received anywhere between 10K to 25K from the GCCF.  On the other hand, less individauls and business were paid if their annual income and profits was over 50K per year (more libility).

This may also explain why there are so many quick payment settlements taken.  The GCCF has compensated (emergency payment) these individuals and business more than what they had earned in a year making them unable to proof more loss. Feinberg knew what he was doing.

RachelM

Jan. 20, 2011, 11:12 a.m.

BK Beach~

I understand your concern for privacy and safety of your documents. 

This is going to be put to the test with a real life or death situation.  There is going to be a new claimant not previously filed with the GCCF.  The file will be sent to Ken Feinbergs office in sealed documents stating everyone who looks at this claim or any contact on this claim must be documented and immediately sent back to the claimants lawyer.  Every phone call, photo copier, accountant, office grunt must be documented.  Once the claim has been approved or denied the file must then again be sealed and it will state that BP and GCCF will be responsible if these documents fall in the wrong hands.  If any of their personal information somehow falls in the wrong hands Ken Feinberg will be held responsible.  This will override any balloon he is hiding behind where he is protected from personal or professional accountability. 
I’ll keep you updated on how this turns out.

RachelM

Jan. 20, 2011, 11:38 a.m.

Molly~

You are 100% correct.  Feinberg pushed through the easy ones that he knew he could settle and get a high number to “Quick Settle” and not sue signatures.  In his own words he stated he only expected around 100 thousand claims to work on.  But when 467,000 claims filed he was overloaded and had to start with the bottom feeders and pass out a little to the businesses to keep them hanging on. 
He stated he denied claims for lack of documentation.  Then why didn’t he just ask for more at that time instead of just outright denying claims.  My business claim was denied without any reason given.  But on the website it tells me “Reason to be given shortly”.  I was denied on October 28th and I still do not know why.  So how can I go forward without knowing the reason.  If they needed something why not ask.

These next 90 days will tell the tell on how Feinberg is going to handle the mess he’s gotten himself into.  He will either sink or swim.  My guess that is why BP is only agreeing to pay him 3 months at a time then re-evaluate.  Now at the end of March and he comes back to the public and announces he is settling more claims than expected and help BP’s stock go up again. I would say he has job security for another 90 days.  If not…we all could be in for a re-shuffle of power.

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