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America’s Growing Income Gap, by the Numbers

Some important statistics on the growth of income inequality over the past three decades.

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ibsteve2u

Nov. 4, 2011, 10:54 a.m.

@Eclectic Observer:  I would disagree with your use of the word “eventually”.

Swavek

Nov. 4, 2011, 11:22 a.m.

Bruce,

Social security is funded through separate 6.25% tax on employee and employer which goes to the Old Age and Disability Insurance Trust fund.  SS has never contributed to the federal deficit which exists in the pool of money managed by US Treasury which is funded by the federal income tax.  In its 76 years of existence SS had 11 years where it took less money then it payed out but it never failed to pay what it owed to seniors, widows and their children and disabled people.  It reduced poverty rates among seniors from 50% to 10% today.  The trust fund has a surplus of 2.7 trillion as of this year which will let it pay the current benefits for another 25 years.  What is true is that US treasure has raided the OADI fund to cover deficits and now is all up in arms about having to pay it back with INTEREST. 

Medicare is in trouble because the costs of medical services is raising at the faster pace than inflation.  Again Medicare is funded by 1.45% payroll tax (on both employee and employer side).

So all they cries about needing to reform entitlements is not based on the facts.  It’s all about eliminating the employer portion (6.25 + 1.45%) of the payroll tax which which keep those too old or unable to work from poverty.  By last count there were 57 million of them.

Now to your addressing the issue of demand.  By altering the tax policy in their favor, the rich keep more than they can conceivably spend.  Apart from household employees (sometimes exceeding 100), they are not really job creators.  Of the top richest 400 households only 9% of their income is wage income and 56% is dividend income.  So that money is mostly parked in financial instruments which feeds the Wall Street casino.  This capital is not funding new businesses.

To create demand you need population with disposable income.  Sadly all the outsourcing is causing the job market to shrink.  The wages in the retail and services sector replacing the well paying manufacturing jobs are lower and thus result in less disposable income.  Until those on the right realize that they can’t give businesses tax breaks for outsourcing forever without damaging the purchasing power of American society we are doomed.  We are in death spiral and those of us who made it don’t care as long as we are OK.  And you are one f them.

As far as 47% of population not paying federal income tax.  They still pay payroll taxes.  But a more interesting question would be how many businesses are not paying income taxes.  And that number according to research by Tax Policy Institute is 55%. 

Some very profitable businesses have a NEGATIVE tax rate according to this study.

http://www.ctj.org/corporatetaxdodgers/CorporateTaxDodgersReport.pdf

clarence swinney

Nov. 4, 2011, 12:37 p.m.

Clinton to Bush to Obama
Who Dug the Deep Hole?  Who Fumbled the ball?
Numbers rounded

Clinton left Bush an 1800B Budget
Bush Left Obama a 3500 Budget

Clinton left Bush a 240B Surplus as far as the eye can see
Bush left Obama a 1400B Deficit as far as the eye can see

Clinton left Bush 5,700B of Debt
Bush left Obama 11,800B of Debt

Clinton left Bush a 237,000 net new jobs created per month
Bush left Obama a 31,000 lowest number since Hoover.

Clinton left Bush 17 Million Manufacturing Jobs
Bush left Obama 11 Million Manufacturing Jobs

Clinton left Bush a 10,800 Dow
Bush left Obama an 8028 Dow

Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth Good Will From Most Men
Bush left Obama Hell on Earth Two disastrous wars. Enmity of 1500 Million Muslims

Clinton left Bush a President most highly rated of any peacetime President in Asia, Africa, Europe.
Bush left Obama the most hated President in history
Bush left Obama an Housing Tsunami and Financial Volcano
Bush left Obama, in 2008, an 8500B Bail out commitment Yes! 8500 not just 700
Bush left Obama his Takeover of Fannie/Freddie, AIG, and first bailout of Chrysler
Bush increased maximum loan by Fannie/Freddie from $300,000 to $729,000
Bush increased FDIC maximum deposit coverage from $100,000 to $250,000
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author-Lifeaholic—Life story of Workaholic failure to Lifeaholic success
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comments welcome at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  facts -numbers not opinion

Stephen Jencks

Nov. 4, 2011, 12:39 p.m.

“Can’t see the forest for the trees” 

Meaning: If you can’t see the forest for the trees, you can’t see the whole situation clearly because you’re looking too closely at small details, or because you’re too closely involved.

http://www.englishclub.com/ref/esl/Idioms/C/can_t_see_the_forest_for_the_trees_149.htm

Income disparity can be traced to a simple flaw in our Constitution and can be easily fixed with a Constitutional Amendment forcing term limits on both houses of Congress.  Well-meaning individuals enter high political office and most soon become besotted by the need to stay there.

It goes something like this;

Congressmen and women have a choice between doing the right thing and appearing to do the right thing.  What is meant by that?  Society, business and politics now changes at such an exponentially increasing rate that the public can no longer follow its nuances. The professional politician is a puppet three card Monte street hustler while his/her constituents are the suckers losing their shirts.  The biggest, richest K Street clients are the puppeteers.

Most politicians are good people who want to do the right thing.  Unfortunately, the right thing often is not the thing that will get them reelected and getting reelected generally trumps doing the right thing.  K Street understands this conflict perfectly and gives them a way to appear to do the right thing or appear to be “trying” to do the right thing while in fact those same Congressmen/women are facilitating and bending the system to the will of those with the most resources.  Often they may not even know themselves when one of their staffers changes the language in a Bill to the word “may” from the word “must” thereby eviscerating a regulation. 

How does this relate to the growing disparity in income and wealth?  It’s the golden rule.  Those with the most gold make the rules and human nature is simply no match.  Those brilliant and forward looking men that drafted our Constitution understood this when they instituted term limits for the Executive Branch.  Unfortunately, they didn’t foresee that the power of the Legislative Branch would one day exceed the power of the President rather than balance it and our Representatives and Senators now must face the same restriction as the President;

Term Limits

Peter

Nov. 4, 2011, 3:11 p.m.

Bruce F., what the heck are you talking about??? If people aren’t working, they’re not paying those taxes that come out of each paycheck, so the politicians that get paid by collecting taxes want those people working. When businesses don’t hire and they’re sitting on a wad of cash, who’s there to hire them? Investing in infrastructure, like what President Obama did with his stimulus package, put people back to work being paid by the government, ultimately, there were construction companies being paid by the government, but that’s only one part of the workforce. Other employers have long since moved on and paid foreign workers a cheaper wage for higher skill jobs like computer programming. I’ve even seen car manufacturers build huge plants in other countries while they’re closing plants down in the U.S., and foreign carmakers building plants here, employing American workers and advertising that they’re employing American workers, buy our car because of that fact! The billionaire decision-makers better wake up to the fact that they’re making enemies in the wrong place, we’re also a big market for their products.

Don Bledsoe

Nov. 4, 2011, 9:50 p.m.

Seventy percent (70%) of the current debt of the United States was created by just three men ... Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.  Trickle-down simply doesn’t.  Favoring the rich gets your re-election campaign funded and perpetuates political corruption.

This country is owned and operated by big corporations aided by the financial institutions to whom they owe their success.  The people are now relegated to being treated like chattel.

Our financial house of cards cannot be sustained and will one day soon fall completely apart, imploding on itself.  I wish it wasn’t so.

Bruce F

Nov. 5, 2011, 1:32 p.m.

Eclectic Observer

Do you really believe what you say about income growth should be more equitably distributed?

Our economy is not a zero-sum game.  The old Lester Thurow book, the Zero Sum Game has been completely dismissed as folly.

Does anyone really believe that government would equitably redistribute wealth?  It would distribute to favored interests based upon campaign contributions.

Solydra’s lawyers, accountants, private equity investors were all Obama high value donors.  The payback was to put half a billion of taxpayer money into a company that was never able to produce their cylinder style solar panels for less than what they were selling them for…. there are now new revelations that the White House may have been looking at giving Solydra a follow-on loan to keep them afloat shortly before they went BK.

I don’t think anyone believes government any longer represents the best interests of any of the people any of the time anymore.

Our way out of this is for businesses to regain confidence from an increase in demand for goods and services.  There are enough people working and now confident they will not lose their jobs that they can take the lead in believing enough to increase demand.  Government’s stimulous plan FAILED!

It may have saved 3M jobs as Moody’s Marc Zandi believes but if the broad base of people did not believe enough to restimulate the economy then it did not work.  Those that said stimulous wasn’t big enough???  How many trillions did they think they could borrow without scaring the living bejesus out of everyone and that too would have resulted in failure of even more stimulous.

The people who have the means to spend are not spending anywhere enough over the broad swath of the economy.  Wealthy are buying things wealthy people buy but it is the broad middle 90% of whom are working that have pulled in their spending horns.

It will take a new Obama exuding confidence instead of the old Obama hammering on millionaires and bilionaires for anything to happen in this economy that will mark a beginning to a new uptrend.

Unfortunately, everything is pointing to a third down tick in real estate and this is going to only lengthen this recession.  Stimulous, housing credits, cash for clunkers have all been temporary shots in the arm.

It saddens me that so many look to government for solutions that are not forthcoming.  My grandfather told me shortly before his death that if I ever had to go to government for anything than I have failed at life.  Hard words and of course this does not account for the truly needy who cannot help themselves.  But there are too many people now who are willfully dependent on government…. those people have failed themselves and failed all of us.  There is always enough for the truly needy if government properly allocated its resources.  The problem is government chooses to allocate too much of its resources to favored political constituencies instead of those truly in need.

ibsteve2u

Nov. 5, 2011, 1:57 p.m.

Problem with getting older?  You can remember when “things were different”...and when you can find data to back up your memories, reading the stuff some people write is just…difficult.

http://www.businessinsider.com/15-charts-about-wealth-and-inequality-in-america-2010-4#the-gap-between-the-top-1-and-everyone-else-hasnt-been-this-bad-since-the-roaring-twenties-1

Bruce F

Nov. 5, 2011, 2:16 p.m.

I have seen all of those charts regarding wealth distribution and on its appearance there is a suggestion that we have come full circle with 1928/29 again in terms of distribution of wealth.

There is only one problem with looking at wealth.  Wealth is created by saving and investing.  The mass middle class chooses to spend everything they get…... yes there has been inflation and yes earnings have not kept up with this or that but Starbucks reported 10% same store growth and record earnings and it aint just rich people paying for too expensive coffee.  The broad middle class has exempted itself from saving and investing choosing instead to believe in the long term solvency of middle class welfare programs like social security and medicare.

Everyone better start looking at Italy now because there is going to be some hard realities coming down in regard to the middle class welfare state…..  America can choose to go down the road of Greece and Italy or we can make a major course correction for the long term now and demand that the broad middle class better start putting much more away for themselves.

I think too many people believe that growing savings systematically and having wealth is unachievable.  Not true.  The big thing is to change consumer attitudes.  I am 53 and I have owned 4 cars in my life since age 17.  I drive my cars into the ground but I take great care of them so they do not become money pits.  My 60 year old brother-in-law has owned more than a dozen cars and I don’t remember when he hasn’t had a monthly car payment.  My last car I paid cash after getting very lucky owning Google.

It takes savings to create wealth.  Wealth cannot be created by the broad middle class if they are going to be sucked into spending to maintain a lifestyle that is beyond their means.  Now people overpaid for homes that were beyond their lifestyle and crashed the world.  Blame the banks for crummy lending, yes but blame the individuals that dilude themselves into believing they have more to spend than they really have to spend and then drain their home equity to obtain even more to spend than they really have to spend.

ibsteve2u

Nov. 5, 2011, 2:59 p.m.

I will agree that the decline of the middle class is their own fault - but only because

a) they fell for the Republicans’ lies - particularly the kind that claimed that energy conservation and alternative energy research measures were somehow “un-American” (leading to ridiculous bumper stickers like “You’ll take my SUV from my cold, dead hands!”) and so we began shipping ever larger chunks of cold hard cash off to the Middle East (which they in turn used to fund terrorism)

b) they fell for Republican lies again when the Republicans used the shocks to our economy caused by wildly and artificially varying energy prices to foist the great lie of voodoo economics upon us all - as if those who constantly complain now about “wealth redistribution” would indeed allow wealth to “trickle down”!!!

All else derived from those two sets of lies….“flood-up/trickle-down” economics gave the few the liquidity they needed to corrupt our political system and begin attacking our savings with their purchase of deregulation and then our very means of survival - our jobs - with inequitable free trade.

Yes, it is the fault of the American middle class that they are endangered - that America herself is endangered - for they are too easily distracted by tactics designed to evoke hatred and fear.  They are lambs who have allowed themselves to be lead to slaughter by and at the hands of the wealthiest and worst people in modern human history.

But that doesn’t mean they have to go down without a fight.

shahislam

Nov. 5, 2011, 9:23 p.m.

There are enough wise persons -who are absolutely right when talking about ‘Balance’ because the perfection is longer lasting in the ‘acts’ not ‘states’. We need just “One benevolent dictator-type honest head with qualities and ‘No personal greed for luxuries’ in control of World’s Powers or in the UN”; -supervising ‘One global democratic system for equally distributing wealths in order to try to close the gap between too poor and too rich’ and currently available Obama has those qualities who just needs a little more time.

The uprisings against too wealthy big guys with small minds world-wide, will continue to be bigger and biggest and the all type of goons, even 3rd WW won’t be able to suppress anymore -the timely voice of the ‘Hard-working, digitally well communicated more intelligent Middle Class People’.

The suppressed evidences of old Russian style political hoaxes are now re-discoverable and not destroyable in the name of procedural destruction to save “the Elusive Crocodile”.
National secrets is a concept of the old world to validate ugly plots and acts of some guys in then, world powers. New World will do much better without those acts and foreign policies etc.
New policies needed to validate phone and e-mail hacking by the Government in a no secret manner, then only bad guys, whether be a citizen or its leader; a member of the public or a public servants have to worry and become good.

Nothing will ever be perfect but ‘Perfection’ is in the acts of balancing (50%‘s of opposing forces) and that’s how everything about our humanly existence and mundane things are programmed.
To be honest, I must state: otherwise, dishonesty always to be remained in the fabric of politics and the old norm is to continue where there won’t be enough honest supporters behind to build a honest leadeship, therefore, negatively powerful dishonest leader-ships will prevail. We-the non-violent wise persons need to be united and ‘not divided’ in our unique aim to build a Wise Leader-ship of the world in the soil of North-America!

craigss

Nov. 16, 2011, 10:56 a.m.

Bill Gates was a self made man.  I am not sure that he would have had that opportunity if he did not have the backing of his family when he dropped out of college.  But after gaiing his own wealth he and his wife have set up many foundations to distribute huge amounts of monies to various charities.  They give away more that most people you know combined in income.
I do find it funny that there were several comments about republicans and thrir support of millionaires.  Bill Gates is a democrate and supported Bill Clinton and President OBama.  along with Opra Wimfrey, Lady Gaga, George Clooney , Cher, Former President Clinton, and many more entertainers that are Millionaires.  Former President went to the White house (according to his financial discloser statement) with an annual income of less than $1mil per year, but according to Mrs. Clintons 2010 reported income they both exceed $1 mil a year.

Bruce F

Nov. 16, 2011, 11:17 a.m.

Bill Gates is a joke.  While he was a businessman he destroyed countless competitors.  In retirement, he disses capitalism.

He has spent billions of foundation assets on education and new data is showing that it has almost all gone to waste in third world countries where corrupt, crony capitalism (very much like Obama and Solyndra) has consumed funds for other than the desired purposes.

These ultra-wealthy democrats in entertainment, media, and business would speak a different tune about democratic politics if a wealth tax ever became law.  Oh these libs talk the talk about giving up a few percentage points of income each year.  How about taking 10% of their net worth NOW, not at death for the good of the country?

These phonies including Buffett would howl in horror at that thought.

shahislam

Nov. 16, 2011, 11:43 a.m.

If Internet technology becomes a non-profit tool for collective global intelligence, ‘mankind on earth with honest and good mentality’ could have virtual paradise-the atual heaven right here on the Earth itself.

ibsteve2u

Nov. 16, 2011, 1:14 p.m.

It becomes more obvious if you put it like this:

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/historical/inequality/IE-1.pdf

(in 2010 CPI-U-RS adjusted dollars)

In 1978, the lowest income quintile received 4.2% of America’s income; in 2010, 3.3%

In 1978, the second income quintile received 10.2% of America’s income; in 2010, 8.5%.

In 1978, the third income quintile received 16.8% of America’s income; in 2010, 14.6%.

In 1978, the fourth income quintile received 24.7% of America’s income; in 2010, 23.4%.

In 1978, the highest income quintile received 44.1% of America’s income; in 2010, 50.2%.

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/historical/families/2010/F02AR_2010.xls

In 1978, the top 5 percent of American families received 15.1% of America’s income; in 2010, 20.1%

That is the Republicans and neoliberal Democrats hard at work on behalf of the few using their ingenious wealth transfer weapons of forced oil addiction, “flood-up/trickle-down” economics, deregulation, and inequitable free trade.

You have to hand it to us:  In all of American history nobody - and I mean nobody; not a single one of our enemies in any of our foreign wars - has been able to hurt the America people like…the American people.  In this case, of course, it is just that 1% of the American people working through their political proxies who are inflicting the destruction. 

The Civil War may have been bloodier, but there surely weren’t as many losers - or as few winners.

Bruce F

Nov. 16, 2011, 2:23 p.m.

What it says is that government has perpetuated the idea that if you are a worker in a cyclical industry like construction you can sit on your rear end between periods of economic growth, pick up your 52 or 99 weeks of unemployment, and just wait for the next upward cycle to begin so that you can work again.

It wasn’t the banks fault that Americans mostly chose to turn their home equity into a piggy bank instead of getting the skills the economy demands so they could earn more money and pay for a higher lifestyle with increased earnings instead of tapping their homes to gain a higher lifestyle.

If you read the old book “The Millionaire Next Store” you will find that one trait of most suburban millionaires that live among all of us is their choice to live well below their means meaning they save and invest more of their available disposable income and they did not use their homes as piggy banks and they do not buy new cars every 5 years.

Too many people think they can sit on their rear ends and their laurels…. never upgrading their skills and refusing to take charge of their own lives instead relying on government largess in recessionary periods to carry them over to the next period of economic growth.

keeper

Nov. 21, 2011, 6:10 p.m.

1) Wouldn’t large savings amounts by the middle class also add up to capital formation?  Wouldn’t a middle class with large savings be able to weather economic storms?  Isn’t savings at individual, corporate, local governments, and the national government the very best basis for capital formation and the ability to smooth out the inevitable economic cycles that come with free enterprise?  So why do we keep complaining about the middle class not spending when our most recent and deepest recession was preceded by a net negative savings rate in the US?
2) Doesn’t our socialist national progressive income tax with all of its built-in social engineering that ultimately favors corporate campaign donors create enough distortions to undermine the natural workings of a free enterprise economy?  The fair tax would put corporations at the same level as family owned and operated small businesses and would eliminate the tax penalties for passing a family business on to the next generation at the death of the previous generation.  Besides that, the corporations could make business decisions without having to consider corporate income tax implications.  Wonder why the corporations don’t jump on the Fair Tax bandwagon?

ibsteve2u

Nov. 21, 2011, 6:32 p.m.

@keeper - I’m confused; are you saying that the descendents of those who created wealth in the form of a business shouldn’t have to pay estate taxes on that wealth - that business?

That is, the g’ment should treat the transfer of that wealth from one American to another as if it were…not worth anything?  Even though those descendents only have a percentage - if any - of the original owner/builder/founder’s “sweat equity” in that business?

keeper

Nov. 21, 2011, 7:18 p.m.

ibsteve2u - yes, that is what I’m saying.  You apparently haven’t seen a small family-owned farm or restaurant totally eaten up by capital gain (the result of “sweat equity”) and death (estate) taxes.  All of the future operating capital plus loans must be used to pay the taxes resulting in the business being sold and often replaced in the community by a “restaurant chain” or a factory farm.  And for wealthier people - don’t I always hear that capital formation results in jobs?  It might actually happen if government didn’t get their fingers in the pot first.

Jeryl Gts

Nov. 21, 2011, 7:36 p.m.

If we had a large cross section of the middle class saving, investing, and participating in the capital formation process they would never put up with this socialist, populist, BS agenda of the democrats.  This middle class would be far too intelligent to put up with settling for the scraps from a morally bankrupt “socialized” security system that disproportionately rewards those with lower incomes at the expense of those with higher incomes.

When health reform is fully implemented senior citizens will be treated to the full impact of the $500B transfer of health wealth from retirees to state MediCAID systems.  The media has given full cover to the dems that have set out to wreck medicare in their overall effort to socialize the whole of medicine in this country.

The worst possible outcome for the democratic party is a large middle class completely independent of government need.  Democrats believe that government’s role is to perpetuate itself and that can only be done by making more and more people dependent on government largess for their personal welfare.

All of us are trapped into mandatory entry into MediCare else we face huge fines for failure to enroll in the system.  I accept that is a function of insurance companies never wanting to insure the elderly but that does not mean the system has to be so full of corruption that no one in the end receives a decent outcome for medicare.

I will never need social security but I will take it and give it over to my children and grandchildren in some manner.  They are going to definitely need it as this great country of ours continues a slow deterioration of our economy because too many people think they can live their lives as undereducated slugs expecting to be paid gobs of money to perform lowest common denominator work.  We need a lot more Americans upgrading their skills so that jobs that can be outsourced are in fact outsourced.  You may not like it but that is our reality in the new world order economy.

Dems don’t care because they need lots of ignorant people lining up for government middle class welfare in order to prosper as a party.

Bruce F

Nov. 21, 2011, 7:50 p.m.

Swavek,

First, the $2.7T of special social security treasury securities represent nothing more than government’s ability to tax the next generation in order to redeem those special treasuries for future social security beneficiaries.  There is exactly zero in the social security fund.

As far as the 47% paying payroll taxes.  Those are social insurance taxes that will be repaid in full and then some to most lower income beneficiaries so I would submit that most of the 47% of non income tax paying Americans will get a very good return on their payroll tax social insurance contributions.

That small payroll tax is not enough to fund the social security and medicare “ponzi game”.

Too many in the middle class made the galactic stupid mistake of borrowing against assets to maintain their lifestyle instead of upgrading their skill set so they could earn more income and thus have more to spend without leveraging against housing wealth or using credit card debt.

Now we are supposed to buy into the argument that the top 1% have too much wealth at the expense of the middle class?  Our economy is not a zero sum game.  Lester Thurow’s book was completely rejected by the broad community of economists years ago.

I don’t buy it at all.  If you are going to work the same dead end job all of your life without putting any effort in to improve yourself then you get the short end.  But the short end is NOT a function of too much wealth at the top.

ibsteve2u

Nov. 21, 2011, 9:36 p.m.

Is pretty funny…America was working great until the Republicans built soaring energy prices into our cost structure by enforcing oil addiction and then Reagan used the resulting economic weakness to inflict “flood-up/trickle-down” economics on America….and then it started going downhill, and fast.

Now all you hear from the right is America will never work (right) again unless we accelerate “flood-up/trickle-down” economics.

I think I will create a name for that economics theory:  The “Throw gasoline on the fire and it will go out!” approach to macroeconomics.

shahislam

Nov. 22, 2011, 7:26 a.m.

......

On June 7, 2011 and June 15, 2011, Agnieszka W. and I had phone conversations. After talking with her just before 1pm on June 15, 2011, I also called and visited my family doctor: F.B.T. Forbes’ clinic at 1:30pm and later I found out that Doctor Forbes’ official Phone # 905-792-2245 was not manipulated but Agnieszka’s call records disappeared from the list. In next few days I noticed all the records of her calls gradually (to and from) were erased from the yet visibly available list of calls (made and received for entire period -more than a year, since I owned the MJ VOIP phone) on the computer screen but I could still find the evidences of ridiculous removal of phone numbers in the odd blank spaces in the list.

The list -clearly visible on the phone log on my computer screen, was displaying records of all the calls made and received from ‘the first day of ‘my MJ phone activation’ up until before July 8, 2011 and moreover, last month I again discovered that the list has been reduced to contain calls in the log of a few months only.

Today (Nov 22 at 3:32 am), I have noted the list remained (the same as I noted on Nov 14, 2011) from July 26, 2011 (unlike past, ridiculously not available beyond 7/26//2011 @ 12:21:39pm) to Sept 21, 2011 @ 1:43:27 pm. where all the calls are absurdly (never seen before) marked with “confusing ‘Cross in RED’ color” and there are also left, evidences of notice-able manipulations that took place in the mean time.

The elusive manipulators are caught “Red handed’ by the digital evidences (if not protected eventually by crime encouraging laws) because I kept, to remain doubtless, a diary of printed records of time and description of callers etc..

For Examples :

*Ms. Selonge called and spoke to me on July 29, 2011 at 4:22:36 pm but it is now not shown in any of the 3 calls (from an impossibly odd 9 digit # 26669-6687) cross-marked in RED color in the list of calls on that day. We desperately in need of finding out the originating caller of the said number and the individuals behind acts of phone calls’ log manipulations and call hacking etc.

*On Oct 14, 2011@ Between 4:15 & 4:22pm I called @ 1-877-982-7466 and spoke to Ms. Kiwana of Tarion Warranty Corporation but today in the MJ call list, nothing shows any sign of that call was made but Ms. Kiwana on Oct 14, 2011 confirmed me that a person from Tarion named: Mr. Fyed called my MJ # 647-977-3000 on Oct 13, 2011 (in order to get the job done for a water leakage problem of faulty flappers inside toilet water tanks) but MJ call log shows only one call I received on that day and it was mysteriously from early mentioned Phone # 26669-6687. There are big lies and manipulations involving some Corporations of the one territorial but two Governments in the above matters and Magic Jack Authority has an important role to play in solving the mystery. I think, more evidences of Hacking has been suppressed by an elusive party which is already, I believe, under watch of both the interconnected territorial Governments under control of Honorable Mr. Barack Obama’s Good Administration and our Canadian Great Administration of Honourable Mr. Harper.

*On Oct 15, 2010 Ms. Trisha from Brampton Superior Court, just like other callers from Courts called me at my Magic Jack number # 647-977-3000 and verbally confirmed me that after a long wait, finally, the reproduction and / or investigation process of a requested very important document had begun according to the December 5, 2008-order of an Honourable Justice of Brampton Court, Ontario, Canada and I gladly verified and noted Brampton Court house’s Telephone number in the MJ call log and was satisfied on MJ’s inexpensive but reliably good phone service, as no other traditional phone services ever offered such a feature, easily use-able as evidences but later on early mentioned Court personnel: Ms. Trisha disappeared and she was nowhere to be identified or found. Therefore, now, for this and some other evidentiary reasons, I need MJ’s full and complete list of calls from the beginning of 2010.

In the mean time, never the less, to help you with more details of mischievous manipulations of calls, I need your co-operation urgently in resetting my account from MJ’s Engineers’ original technical-end to make available to me by ‘usual way of cumputer screen display as it was before July 8, 2011’ or by printed hard copy, -an accurate and un-manipulated list of all the calls from your Magic Jack Server or MJ file records from the very beginning -when My # 647-977-3000 was first activated and up to current time.

Would you please cordially assist me? Although, I prefer e-mail, please feel free to communicate with me by any means of your choice.

Sincerely,

Mr. Shah Islam

email; .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

shahislam

Nov. 22, 2011, 7:36 a.m.

In support of my post here dated Nov 16: why I believe un-manipulable digital tech. may contribute tremendously to the developments of positive sides of humanity in the near future,
None can get away after doing wrongful things anymore, because digital evidences are too invincible to be destroyed or manipulated, unlike the old times.
I have attached below a part of my personal case involving two Govts.. of one territory, for you. if may realize by simply banning current norm: acceptance of official lies, how easily our judicial system can take advantage of the available technologies of present time as nothing can be kept hidden anymore, if new laws are made and passed against protection of everyday negative things done by unscrupulous professionals and businessmen.

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