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Two Dark Money Groups Outspending All Super PACs Combined

Karl Rove’s Crossroads GPS and Americans for Prosperity, a group backed by the Koch brothers, have put almost $60 million so far into ads to influence the presidential race, an analysis of new spending estimates shows.

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Peter Eidolon

Aug. 18, 2012, 2:56 p.m.

I never assume (you know what that means) anything like you have in assuming my post is all about your post! It’s not… as it is about media coverage and money! “Money is corrupting only when it’s helping
a cause you don’t believe in”

Ginger Rushing

Aug. 18, 2012, 3:28 p.m.

Sorry Peter if I assumed incorrectly.  (Wow my typing was really bad-sorry)  You may be correct as for the media and their coverage of the money train.  I however believe that is is corrupting when it comes from any source other than individuals, who are made puiblic, with limits on spending.  I believe the only way we will return to fair elections is to either go back to limited contributions as I stated or public elections funded from a pool of money that we all chip into and made available to individuals who can qualify under specific guidelines.  Then the only thing it leaves is for them to concentrate on the issues instead of fund raising 50% of the time and being beholden to those who write the biggest check.  These public elections have been working on some local levels in a few communities across the country and I see no reason why they coouldn’t work at every level.  Also if we stay with the system of contributions to individual candidates, those contributions should only come from that candidates home area, be it a state, country or city elections.  We have to find some way to level the playing field so that every politician does not have to come from one economic class.  There are a lot of voices in this country and everyone deserves to be heard and have their interests considered by our lawmakers.  I believe that is much closer to what the original intention was than what we have today.

Mike1950's

Aug. 19, 2012, 11:05 p.m.

Wow—an interesting thing happened today.  I don’t know what happened in the Propublica’s staff room???
They ran an article that came out after midnight Sunday, and closed comments to it by noon Sunday (today)  The article was about 501(c)4
politcal action funds a.k.a. charities.  I particulaly liked a paragraph by the last person to post, about media being another indirect funding/ advertising conduit for political parties and individuals.  The report was slightly more balanced and had a a fair amount of discussion.  Too bad they closed it.

CLARENCE SWINNEY

Aug. 20, 2012, 3:29 p.m.

Back to COUNTY banking like S&L—local owners-local loans-local wealth recirculated in A county

Americans want their pound of flesh, and rightfully so. We’ve seen our bankers commit every kind of financial crime imaginable. They trade on insider information. They manipulate markets. They rig bets. They fix prices. They sell securities that are designed to fail so that they can bet against them. They launder money for rogue nations. They create too-big-to-fail banks that gamble with impunity knowing that we will bail them out again and again. And they collectively crashed the economy causing 8 million workers to lose their jobs.

5 TOO BIG HOLD 50% OF DEPOSITS IN ABOUT 7000 AND 10% HOLD 80%
IT IS CALLED M O N O P O L Y

Keith Alt

Sep. 1, 2012, 6:23 p.m.

I would like to point out that donations to the Sierra Club are not tax deductible.  They are honest about attempting to influence legislation, and they tell their members upfront that donations aren’t deductible.  If only Karl Rove had that kind of integrity.

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