How Patients Can Use This Data
We created our Dollars for Docs database partly as an educational tool. How can patients use it? We interviewed medical and academic experts to ask for advice. Here are some questions and answers:
Q. My doctor is on this list. Should I care?
A. If your doctor is listed, it’s because he or she received money from one of the drug companies for promotional activities or consulting. Payments are legal, so it doesn’t mean your doctor has done anything wrong. But research has shown that drug-company marketing can influence what a doctor prescribes, and some experts say it is cause for concern.
“If you see somebody who has received a sum of money, particularly a relatively large sum, the first question would be, ‘Am I on any products that are manufactured by that company?’” said Dr. Fred Ralston, Jr., president of the American College of Physicians.
Others say the information should carry less weight. Dr. Perry Fine, a Utah pain doctor who is president elect of the American Academy of Pain Medicine, said the amount of money a doctor receives is less important than personal recommendations and the doctor’s training and experience.
One word of caution: Some doctors in our database have the same or similar names, so be sure to confirm with your doctor that he or she is actually the one on the list. Names and addresses on the data are as disclosed by the companies, and they sometimes use variations.
Q. My doctor’s not on the list. What does that mean?
A. ProPublica included payments only from the drug companies that have made these relationships public so far. Many doctors do not do promotional work or consulting for drug companies. Others may receive such payments from companies that haven’t yet disclosed them. So even if your doctor isn’t on the list, experts say it’s worth asking about the issue.
Q. What’s the best way to bring up the issue with my doctor?
A. Although it can feel awkward, some experts say it’s important to ask about potential conflicts of interest. Others say patients should trust their doctors to do what’s right for them. If you do raise the issue, tell your doctor you want to feel confident the drugs he is prescribing for you are best for the job.
According to a national survey by Consumer Reports, conducted for this project, 70 percent of adults say doctors should tell their patients about payments they’ve taken from a drug company whose drugs they are about to prescribe.
Ask first if your doctor has any financial relationships with drug companies. If so, ask about what companies are involved, the nature of each relationship and the duration. Most often, doctors are paid for promotional activities, such as speaking to other doctors about a drug, or for consulting or research.
It’s important to ask whether medications you are taking are made by the companies. If the answer is yes, it’s not necessarily a problem but is worth discussing further.
Q. How can I be sure my doctor is offering unbiased advice about a drug?
A. If your doctor has prescribed you medication made by a company he or she receives payments from, you should ask whether there are any cheaper generic alternatives. How does the drug compare to others in its class? What are the side effects? Are there alternatives with fewer side effects? And importantly, are there non-drug alternatives, such as diet, watchful waiting or physical therapy?
It may be that the drug you are on is the best option. But sometimes a drug company will market a new, more expensive version of an established drug even when the older one is cheaper and effective.
Asking these questions will show your doctor you’re aware of these issues.
Q. Where can I learn more about drugs my doctor prescribes?
A. Searching the Web will bring up a wealth of links and literature. One site that has comprehensive drug and supplement information is MedlinePlus.
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The Story So Far
ProPublica is investigating the financial ties between the medical community and the drug and device industry. In October 2010, ProPublica compiled the list of payments that drug companies make to physicians and built a publicly searchable database so that patients could look up their doctors.
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Sept. 7, 2011: We have added new records to our database and plan periodic future updates.
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10 comments
Mark Hayward
Oct. 20, 2010, 6:16 p.m.
My children see pediatricians who are part of a large, multi-doctor practice that includes primary care physicians and specialists. Do such clinics ever contract with drug companies, and if so, are those relationships disclosed?
appaldwiththis2
Oct. 21, 2010, 10:33 a.m.
How about disclosing all of the lunches, dinners, snacks and other items that companies bring into physician practices? I know my physician group gets lunch from some vendor every day of the month- and they’re dumb enough to show the calendar in a public hallway! Lunches for 8 doctors and like 10 secretaries and nurses has to be over $100 a day!
A comparable list of compensation from medical device and equipment manufacturers should also be published!
Boo Radly
Oct. 21, 2010, 11:18 a.m.
Thank you for this much needed public service. I am almost over whelmed by the amount information you have provided.
May I ask if there is any public information regarding other health care workers/facilities getting these payments from drug companies - such as hospitals and rest homes?
Drug rep
Nov. 15, 2010, 8:32 p.m.
I am a drug rep and I am disgusted with the way the media paints this with a negative brush. You have a short memory, these drugs costs hundreds of millions to bring to the market and only a short time to recoup their investment. The US Gov rewards competitors who challenge your patents. It is a FACT that generics are less effective than branded drugs and have considerably more side effects. As the baby boomers get older and more sick many of you want your parents to have cutting edge medicine that will bring a miracle cure. Well guess what, that costs a lot of money to do and the way things are progressing you kiss your parents good bye. Everybody wants their $4 Walmart drugs but thinks nothing of spending $5 a day at Starbucks. You are all cheap morons and will destroy my industry within 5 years. Then there will be another 100+k reps looking for work. I hope I take your job.
Barbwire
Nov. 16, 2010, 2:11 p.m.
Response to Drug rep…“As the baby boomers get older and more sick many of you want your parents to have cutting edge medicine that will bring a miracle cure”.
Ahh! The guilt trip approach…what else do they teach you to push your drugs?
Where is this ‘miracle cure’ when the patient is not getting the best drug for them, but just some drug the doc is pushing because he is in cahoots with the likes of you and your company? And then they die anyway…
I just found one of my expert docs on ‘the list’, and guess what?? The first of this month, he put me on a medicine for an ailment that no other doctor has ever even been concerned with….yep, it is one he has taken payment from the drug company!
I wondered why he wouldn’t even let me ask questions at my last visit…I am glad I found this information while looking for another doctor to take his place…I don’t want anything he has to give, not even the $4 generic meds!
I don’t trust any doctor who would be biased with drug companies’ medicines to push their products, and as well, put his monetary value above the health and well-being of another individual. That is about all the drug industry amounts to anyway. And I hope with your attitude towards other people, you don’t ever grow old, and need medicine for you ailments…you might not get the right kind. By the way, I am a nurse, and you can have my job anytime you want it!
Autism Father
Nov. 16, 2010, 5:43 p.m.
Also public information that state agencies get copious funding from big Pharma. Public information that most if not all professional/public information campaigns directed at pediatricians promoting more aggressive drug and vaccine deployment are big Pharma funded. So also ask your child’s doctor if the drug prescribed was based on any of their professional education/training programs, often in form of videos or slide presentations. Your children cannot ask these questions and their health could be affected. Be a strong advocate for your children with the view that an ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure.
Darcy Talone
Nov. 16, 2010, 5:56 p.m.
Response to Drug rep: You are an example of someone who knows they have a losing argument and has to try to shout down everyone in the room with cheap sophomoric intimidation tactics. By the way I have seen the propaganda, err… I mean “training” materials promoted by the organization PHARMA. They tell us of the “horrors” of not using the most advanced drugs. Also your rant reads as if you are justifying whatever risks are involved from drugs forced upon the ignorant by a “bought and paid for pill pusher” are worth it and we should just put up with it. Guess what? This drug / market / regulatory / international landscape is so muddled, there can be no optimum. But big U.S. Pharma has simply run out of ideas, and with Chinese command economy directing massive R&D spending run-ups, your “broken:” business model is about to be steam rolled, not for the fallacious distractions you pander, but because you have ignored: “innovate or die”. If you spent your fortunes less on lobbying and more on retaining people who still know how to create and invent, perhaps you would not be appearing like the dog backed into the corner on two hind legs yelping moronically.
Drug Rep
Nov. 17, 2010, 9:11 a.m.
While I appreciate your concerns about your doctor, you should know that I choose my own doctor and my childrens doctor based on comfort level, intelligence, and bed side manor. By suggesting that your leaving your doctor because he/she took money from a Pharmaceutical is ridiculous. EVERY doctor in some capacity takes money from Pharmaceutical companies. All new drugs brought to market come from a collaboration with doctors. You should know that every drug has an approval process. If the individual doctor does not take money then the hospital they are affiliated with does. It’s unescapable!!
Also, do you ask your insurance agent about his affiliations or your mechanic if he every accepted a free wrench from a vendor. When you really think about it you just proved my point. You fell victim to media targeting. You only blogged on this because you stumbled onto a website. Your a hypocrit. Shame on you.
Drug Rep
Nov. 17, 2010, 9:18 a.m.
And another thing. On average a new doctor goes to 4 years undergrad, another 4 years of Medical School, another 2 years of residency. Multiple continuing education coarses through the AMA. To suggest that most doctors do not have the intelligence to make their own decisions for their patients is silly. It insults their intelligence, just ask them on your next visit.
Tina Carr
Nov. 17, 2010, 2:29 p.m.
As an Administrator of a large group practice, lunch time is really the only time the docs can sit down and actually listen to what the reps are trying to tell them about new drugs. All companies schedule lunch with our doctors and nurses and they aren’t pushing or selling their drugs, they are giving us valuable information that may not be known to us otherwise. Yes, there are journal articles about some new drugs or drug studies but if you saw the amount of journals our docs get in one week, it is humanly impossible to read all of them! Doctors keep taking hits about everything they do, money they make, etc. but no one seems to realize the expenses involved in operating a practice, let alone the hours these guys put in to take care of their patients. If you factor in expenses and the amount of red tape we got through just to get paid, these doctors are averaging an hourly wage of an engineer! Our health system was broken, but it is quickly becoming beyond repair.
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